I want to see Parker kick someone’s head off. That would be awesome.
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Holy frickin’ cow! One punch, something tells me Guy has a background in amatuer boxing. Christian deserved it though, and now Staisia knows she has a man that can protect her if need be.
YAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!! Guy did hit that creeper! Ah, best moment of the comic so far. ^_^
Also, i’m sure Stasia will understand! Guy was just protecting his best (and only?) friend from a creep who hit her! plus, i’m sure she wanted to it just as much as him…
I didn’t think it possible, but I just fell more in love with Guy right there. Protecting his best friend from a downright ass slapping her? Helping Stasia (even if she’s a star) from all the marriage business? Reading himself to sleep so he could learn more from her? Going to the concert with Parker even though he didn’t like Stasia’s music to begin with? Counselor at school for all problematic and non-problematic children? A HOT GEEK TO BOOT?!
Quite the character you’ve created, Bobby and Eisu. Quite the character.
And now, I was thinking: if I ever see this as a movie, I will buy a poster with the actor who portrays Guy to squee over every morning. I just love a character like that! *swoon*
Also: I am not an U.S. resident so I can’t support you through WOWIO. Is it any other way for me to help or is the only other way ordering one of the books? Thanks in advance for any response.
Pfft. Christian will just get rich selling ironic T-shirts (”I got my a$$ kicked by Stasia’s Maybe-Husband!”) through faux indie shops (I’m looking at you, Hot Topic) and then ghost-write a scandalous tell-all “unauthorized” bio of Guy wherein he implies that the entire incident was a homophobic hate-crime against him.
Must say that i feel sorry for Chris. He got look and money but very little else. I think he is truly most honest person in this comic (mostly because he doesn’t have enough brain to being dishonest).
On page 55, he said been changed, but it is more like game. He got attention span like little kid. He will just abandon his charity center like dull toy, because Stasia like playing more with Guy.
Chris is more fun while living. And with missing tooth Chris surely look like big idiot.
Violence is great! I say, every bogus melvin should have a hot chick knock him to the mud if he stops doing what he said he was doing! Damn straight! And if that bogus melvin gets out of line with the hot chick that knocks him down, then I say Captain Mary-Sue should bust his head like a melon! By God, Violence Rules! I wish I could take down legions and squadroons of bogus dudes, but you know, they keep finding ways and times to hit back. I mean, bogus!
The paparazzi must be kicking themselves to have missed such a perfect story.
For some reason (at least in the uncolored version), Christian in panel 3 reminds me of the Joker (from Batman). Probably how his hair frames his eyes and looks like eye makeup.
Anyhow, it’s dental implant time for Christian. They’ve gotten much better these days.
Now I’m curious how Stasia (and her sister) will react…
*as Bart Simpson* THAT’S THE STUFF, PSYCHO!!! *reverently* And so it begins!!!!!
*shrieks* YES!!!!!!!! *does happy dance*
Michael Buffer: *all disappointed* That Rumble didn’t last for even five seconds…*sigh* Now I have to wait until next years WWE Royal Rumble…*shuffles off*
“I didn’t think it possible, but I just fell more in love with Guy right there. Protecting his best friend from a downright ass slapping her? Helping Stasia (even if she’s a star) from all the marriage business? Reading himself to sleep so he could learn more from her? Going to the concert with Parker even though he didn’t like Stasia’s music to begin with? Counselor at school for all problematic and non-problematic children? A HOT GEEK TO BOOT?!
Quite the character you’ve created, Bobby and Eisu. Quite the character.
And now, I was thinking: if I ever see this as a movie, I will buy a poster with the actor who portrays Guy to squee over every morning. I just love a character like that! *swoon*”
amen, my sister. a-men. guy is the ultimate prince charming, and I hope S will see that.
I’ve been reading this comic ever since I saw the link on No Pink Ponies and I LOVE IT!!! I don’t know why I hadn’t commented in that long, but whatever. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I love the comic and especially this page. This side of Guy is one of the best yet. Not to say his other qualities aren’t great, but I love guys that stand up for the people they care about. Bobby and Eisu, many gold stars to you!! (Really, who needs Oscars and Grammys when you can have gold stars?) ^_^ Keep up the wonderful work!
“Oh crap, the big oneâ€
Panel one says it all.
It almost made my heart fly out of my chest at Guy’s loyalty.
Almost like “Mess with the chick, and get a little of this!” BAM!
Aha I love his terrified look, that and the way Guy can hold his own.
Doesn’t seem like the kind of councillor I’d know…
We need more councillors like him in the world.
I wonder how many times Guy has hit a random guy unconscious just because that Parker girl has attacked the dude beforehand (for no good reason). Never knew Guy would be the violent type.
Like we didn’t see that coming. It’s like knowing in advance about a huge party you’re throwing and everything is going to be perfect. You look foreward to it, it happens without a hitch; such sweetness.
Now let’s work on daddy!
has hit a random guy unconscious just because that Parker girl has attacked the dude beforehand (for no good reason).
It’s not “for no good reason”, the guy was a jerk who laid off workers who was building a charity building and could care less about it after Stasia have asked the guy to reconsider and not do something like that… I think she had a pretty good reason to jump him as well.
Just a thought. =. Chris seem very weak (physically and mentally), so he may been sheltered all his live. Does he have some health problem? If so. Stasia may don’t like Guy’s violent outburst. :/
On this occasion I have to agree with the blonde guy. Yes this is a social taboo against hitting women but Parker was attacking him and he slapped hwr in self defense to get her off of him and I think in that case his actions were justified. If Parker doesn’t want to get slapped she shouldn’t attack people. Women its a too way street now, if you are allowed to defend yourself from men who attack you men should be able to defend themselves from women who defend them
First time I’ve commented, but I just want to say. Yes, Christian is a jerk. Yes, anyone else would have done the same thing in the moment. No, I don’t think he deserved to be FALCON PAUNCHED Like that. For all of his jerkness he was just walking along when Parker attacked him and all that happened. In the real world I would side with Christian.
But this is a comic, and it does feel oddly satisfying seeing him out cold and missing a tooth. Good job all around.
Grth has a point there, though it doesn’t fit the ‘mood’ most are posting about this particular scene; Christian was defending himself – Parker was on top of him semi-strangling him with his scarf. Slapping her may have been a little over-the-top (he was bigger than her and could have just shaken her off), and Guy’s reaction seemed a little impulsive, seeing his best friend hit.
This scene is definitely a good opening for a little drama between Stasia and Guy, should Stasia interpret this as inappropriate actions on the part of Guy and Parker toward Christian, who *is* a friend/acquaintance of hers she’s known MUCH LONGER than her JUST-FORMED relationship(s) with Guy & parker.
Sorry to rain on this ‘he’s pwned’ parade… but there’s still a little reality checking to be made here.
All in all, this is a wonderful story, and I look forward to see where this goes from here.
I’m with Danek, I can see why Guy hit Christian (and honestly, I think that there are some self centered ego maniacle people who deserve to be hit) but I don’t think this is insta-pwned.
Being as we were all kind of standing there, watching what happened, I don’t know if I’d be more… stunned that this otherwise very level headed man just one hit KOed a star or if I’d snicker behind Christian’s back at the absurdity that he went down in one hit at all…
I don’t feel the righteous fury of Guy hitting Christian, like, it just didn’t ring with me. I know why he did it – and I know that if it were me, and my best friend, Justin would have done the same. But I don’t know that I would auto-swoon if I were Stacia, is all.
She’s the only person, for me, that I can’t very well guess what she might do. Parker is always going to be crazy, Guy is always going to be Loyal, and Christian’s always going to be a raging dumb #*%&.
As a counter point though for Stacia and Christian – I don’t think they were ever friends. I think they dated, but I don’t think they ever liked each other, let alone loved. I think the emotions Stacia felt at the beginning of the comic, were more along the ropes of being fired from a job you hate. You’re glad to be gone, but it would have been nice to be the one to do the dumping.
This comic just gets worse and worse every time I come back to it. I do come back every once in a while for the art, but the writing is horrible.
Wow. Parker takes it upon herself to mete out justice to Christian, so Christian deserves to get punched in the face by Guy? None of this is realistic in any way- that Parker would get openly violent in a situation that she barely knows about, Guy the good student counselor resorts to punching immediately (wonder what he tells his students?)…
I don’t have a problem with you writing a character that would hit a girl, even though a man hitting a woman IRL is wrong (yes, Grth, clearly Parker deserved to get hit by a man much bigger and heavier than her. No strength difference there at all /sarcasm>). What I have a problem with is the characters being consistently one-dimensional. It’s no fun to read.
And please save your breath with “but it’s just a romantic comedy! you’re not supposed to take it so seriously!” If you and Eisu invest time writing and drawing a comic, my assumption is that you want people to take it seriously, not just write comments about duuuuude cool violence!!1
I don’t really think that you’ll let this go through, since you’ve erased and blocked people who have have problems with your comic before, but at least you’ll read this before you mod it out. Congratulations on having a uniformly congratulatory comments page. It means you’ve alienated everyone who would have given you any kind of critisicm, constructive or otherwise.
Can’t wait for another update! Gotta be patient though. Thanks for the wonderful story and artwork.
On a side note, I remember reading that this story was only supposed to go about 80 pages. To me, the devlopment seems only halfway, two thirds at the most. I think finishing the story in just 20 pages would probably rush it a bit. Please don’t feel bound to finishing at 80 at the expense of the story!
Of course, I’m not the one writing , so do as you wish
“I don’t really think that you’ll let this go through, since you’ve erased and blocked people who have have problems with your comic before”
This is obviously a 100% lie. The only reasons I’ve ever banned people is for LYING (like you just did, but I’m not even banning you yet) and for wasting everyone’s time by criticizing ME PERSONALLY INSTEAD OF THE COMIC (like you also just did!).
“Congratulations on having a uniformly congratulatory comments page. It means you’ve alienated everyone who would have given you any kind of critisicm, constructive or otherwise.”
You’ve obviously either been banned previously or know someone who has and you’re extremely bitter about it. THE COMMENTS FOR “MARRY ME” INCLUDE MORE CRITICISM THAN ANY OTHER COMMENTS PAGE OR FORUMS FOR ANY OTHER COMIC IN HISTORY WITH A SIMILAR SIZED AUDIENCE, OTHER THAN MAYBE “LAST BLOOD,” ANOTHER COMIC OF MINE. That is a fact. Try to somehow disprove it. I allow everyone to say whatever they want as long as they’re not flat out lying or just bashing me personally, and I allow some people, like you just now, to even do both of those things for a while until it gets too disgusting and they need to get banned. Almost every other comic writer would delete 90% of the bad comments that I allow to go through. I’ve said this so many times before, so annoying.
None of your complaints made any sense whatsoever. What’s unrealistic about a psycho crazed fan (Parker) attacking a guy who just seriously pissed off the girl she loves, belittled herself and her friend by referring to them as the little one and the big one and assuming that the only reason Stasia would know them is if their dying wish was to meet her, ended his charity and fired all those people, and obviously has a history with Stasia that she knows about and knows how it ended badly before already? She also hated the horrible movie he just starred in, which is reason enough to kill him! And how could it possibly be unrealistic for a guy to defend his best friend who was just punched by someone twice her size???
“What I have a problem with is the characters being consistently one-dimensional.”
Uh, your main complaint about the comic was that the characters, in your opinion, WEREN’T one-dimensional, but you thought their “second” dimension, being capable of violence, was unrealistic. If Guy was one-dimensional, he’d never stop reading and being boring and he certainly wouldn’t falcon punch a movie star.
You are a decent person but you just don’t get it. “Marry Me” is not really a graphic novel or even a story in the usual sense; instead, ‘Marry Me’ is a commercial venture, a cruise missile aimed at the hormones of American women as a shortcut to their pocketbooks. If women think they have a right to knock men down, then a writer can make money by heroizing women who knock men down; if women think that they should have big blonde boyfriends to beat the teeth of out of men who don’t like being knocked down, then a writer can make money by inventing such big blonde boyfriends, whether the characters or the story make sense or not. The point is to make money by offering women exactly what they want. If American women wake up one morning and decide they like men who paint their toenails, you can bet that Guy will start painting his toenails the next day; and you can bet this board will be full of messages from women begging for the chance to buy posters of Guy painting his toenails. Instead of complaining, En, you should give credit where credit is due, because that’s the way business works.
By the way, Violence Rules is clearly a huge hater of me and this comic, but I’ve allowed all his comments to go through. I assume I’ve banned him previously, though. Maybe he’s En also.
In my opinion, Christian was somewhat justified, in backhanding Parker. Just because she’s smaller doesn’t remove her ability to kill him, especially with the help of the shirt to strangle him. It’s quite possible that he was reacting through instinct. I mean seriously, if someone you don’t really know is strangling you, you don’t think of the correct way to get them off, you go with the first thing that comes to mind to get them off, because you would be panicking. You would not be debating about if it was justified, or how it goes against chivalry, you’d be more worried about keeping your life. Given…he is still a jerk to begin with.
No, Guy’s punch isn’t fully justified either, but people are not rational, and given the right situation, they will respond with emotions rather than thinking about how fair it is. And that’s what happened here. Guy’s love (friendship) for Parker and wanting her not to be hurt outweighed the rational thoughts of justification.
Anyway, I laughed, and indeed it is a Falcon Punch.
>>By the way, Violence Rules is clearly a huge hater of me and this comic, but I’ve allowed all his comments to go through. I assume I’ve banned him previously, though. Maybe he’s En also.<<
Violence Rules replies:
Bobby, I have posted exactly two messages on this board since the day I was born, and both of them are on the board right now; and I promise you this is the only screen name I have ever used here. If you really imagine that I am En or that I could be En, then your intuition for personality and writing styles is pretty weak. All I am is a man who grew up under the fists of a battering stepmother and who married a battering wife, and the only thing I hate here is the dogma which says that women can attack men because women are ’smaller.’
Bobby, I know you need to make a living and I respect that; but I really feel like some truth needs to be said here. Violence is violence even if a ’smaller’ and ’sensitive’ woman is the one who starts it; and if your female readers think that ’smaller’ and ‘more sensitive’ people should have a license to attack ‘larger’ and ‘less sensitive’ people, then why not ask those same women how much they would like being hit and knocked down by their sons and daughters. Should your children stand on a scale every year on their birthdays to see if they are smaller than their mothers or not? And, should your children have a license to inflict domestic violence on their mothers until they stop being smaller than their mothers? Does being ‘bigger’ mean you have no right to the dignity of your own body?
Violence Rules: You’re reading WAY too much into this and you’re misunderstanding me if you think I’m somehow saying what you apparently think I’m saying. I agree with you completely — please tell me where I’ve said otherwise or where the comic has in any way said otherwise.
PARKER ATTACKED CHRISTIAN, CHRISTIAN PUNCHED HER, GUY DEFENDED HIS FRIEND, NO MATTER WHO WAS RIGHT OR WRONG, BECAUSE SHE’S HIS FRIEND AND CHRISTIAN’S AN ASSHOLE AND CHRISTIAN IS TWICE HER SIZE AND IF THERE’S GOING TO BE A FIGHT HE’S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HELP PARKER OUT.
Please tell me how that promotes anything about how women should be allowed to beat men. It doesn’t in ANY CONCEIVABLE WAY to anyone with a brain.
Also, Parker did far less damage to Christian than Christian did to her. He punched her in the face. She pushed him down and basically rubbed his neck with a shirt and he was never in any danger whatsoever. If Guy pushed him down and tried to choke him, he’d possibly succeed and kill him, but Parker was way too small/weak to do any damage that way. Christian can shrug her off like a bug.
Doesn’t change the fact that even when someone you don’t know starts to strangle you, you don’t respond kindly, even if they are smaller then you and of the opposite gender.
“Also, Parker did far less damage to Christian than Christian did to her. He punched her in the face. She pushed him down and basically rubbed his neck with a shirt and he was never in any danger whatsoever.”
The shirt could do plenty of damage, and if it went on, could actually choke someone, all it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull. If he doesn’t respond in some sort of way, he could have ended up dying, or most likely passing out. But the mind never thinks rationally when in a panic.
I agree with everything but the twice her size statement. With the use of tools, size doesn’t matter, and this case, the shirt was a tool.
“The shirt could do plenty of damage, and if it went on, could actually choke someone, all it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull.”
Totally wrong. All he has to do is spin around and throw her off him and then untie the shirt himself.
“With the use of tools, size doesn’t matter, and this case, the shirt was a tool.”
The shirt was a SHIRT, not a GUN, and she’d need a gun or a knife or some tool like that to kill someone twice her size. You’re somehow not realizing that he can just stand up and toss her aside. His arms and legs are completely free — that’s how he was able to punch her, remember? She was sitting on his back, but she’s not nearly heavy enough or strong enough for that to keep him down.
Sorry for kicking in when the discussion has moved to entirely different topics, but anyway:
Actually I found it refreshing not to see any Wham! Blam! Punch! stuff. To me, such punchlines (pardon the pun) are just stating the obvious.
Re the violence discussion: I think Parker simply never managed to hurt anybody, so attacking somebody physically is no big deal for her.
She must be used to being slapped though, otherwise she wouldn’t have been able to shrug that slap off so easily.
For the benefit of doubt, I’ll accept Violence’s explanation that he’s subject to female violence.
However, that doesn’t make the comic bad. Any art will, for some individuals, trigger bad memories. Either you deal with the memories or you go look at something else, but it’s *not the fault of the artist*.
Oh SIGH. I’ve made this comment before, but the board ate it.
Parker could NOT strangle Christian like that. You can’t cut off someone’s air with an open loop, not unless you actually put your knee in his neck and then pull with all your might.
If you want to strangle someone you use a closed loop. Christian was in danger of having a few fabric burns on his neck, nothing more. Which is born out by the fact that he was shouting and calling for help. Not exactly sounds someone makes whose air supply has been cut off.
“This comic just gets worse and worse every time I come back to it. I do come back every once in a while for the art, but the writing is horrible.”
Frankly, that’s silly.
You know how Google works, right? Well, if you search on “Eisu” and “artist” you get over 4500 hits, one of which is Eisu’s DeviantArt page. IOW, Eisu’s artwork is all over the ‘Net; there is no reason to come to a webcomic you despise just to see it.
And even if you did have to come here, you could always, y’know, look at the pictures and NOT READ THE DIALOGUE.
How AWESOME is it that we get such an “early” update? It was great, as it contributed to the “flow” of the story, made it more violent if you get what I mean. Which you probably don’t, since I sucked at explaining myself.
Whatever.
I understand what’s being said about Parker. But she IS a bit crazy, and that’s precisely why we like her. and Guy being so protective is kind of nice, he is not consciously choosing violence, but reacting to seeing his friend in danger.
I am still very much in love with this cute geek.
and with Marry Me, of course.
“If you want to strangle someone you use a closed loop. Christian was in danger of having a few fabric burns on his neck, nothing more. Which is born out by the fact that he was shouting and calling for help. Not exactly sounds someone makes whose air supply has been cut off.”
This is what I said and I quote “All it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull.” Sounds to me like closing the loop.
“The shirt was a SHIRT, not a GUN, and she’d need a gun or a knife or some tool like that to kill someone twice her size.”
And I don’t think the shirt was being used as a shirt at the time, so that would make it a tool for another purpose that it wasn’t meant for. Sorry for not clarifying, but what I meant by “if it went on” was, if it were to go on, without Christian fighting back, Parker could have formed the loop and started to strangle him. Had it gone on longer, Christian might have done something worse than what he did.
Anyways, what I’m trying to get at is that Christian is being strangled, by someone he barely knows and has no right to attack him in the first place. When he is being strangled, he doesn’t pay attention to the size of the person, or how tight it is against his neck, first thing he’ll notice is that there is something pulling against his neck. Now, I don’t know about you, but in that case, I wouldn’t take kindly to someone trying to strangle me out of the blue, and probably, I’d be panicking at the time to get them off. So Christian, panicking and acting out in instinct, gets her off of him by “back-handing” her. No, he did not punch her, his hand is clearly open.
Even though she is small, she still has the ability to kill him. I’m not saying he was justified in his attack of her, but being panicked and probably angry from being attacked in the first place for no reason, he might be more inclined not care about her safety over his.
Sorry for dragging this argument/debate on. I still love this comic for what it is, it’s just the way your saying “She’s smaller” it’s like saying Christian doesn’t have the right to respond in turn for her actions. Anyway, good luck.
“This is what I said and I quote ‘All it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull.’ Sounds to me like closing the loop.”
But did you miss the part where Parker never did that???
“Sorry for not clarifying, but what I meant by ‘if it went on’ was, if it were to go on, without Christian fighting back, Parker could have formed the loop and started to strangle him.”
Very confused. Why would any possible scenario matter involving Christian not fighting back? Obviously he’s not going to let her murder him (and she wouldn’t actually kill him anyway), but, as I’ve said a million times, there was no need to punch her in the face when he could have just plain STOOD UP and shook her off, or at worst he could just push her off him. He didn’t need to punch her. OBVIOUSLY everyone agrees that he shouldn’t have let her KILL HIM, JEEZ.
“Anyways, what I’m trying to get at is that Christian is being strangled, by someone he barely knows and has no right to attack him in the first place.”
That’s your opinion that she has no right to attack him — I think she has every right in the world to do so and that a lot more pieces of shit like him should be attacked.
“No, he did not punch her, his hand is clearly open.”
My intention was for it to be a closed fist punch. The final art made it look more like a slap, but who gives a shit — it’s a back handed hit where his knuckles make contact with her face and resulted in a bruise on her cheek, as you can see some of on Panel 5 of this page. That’s a punch to me and it’s incredibly stupid for you to argue that point and try to correct me about what happened in the comic that I wrote. It’s also posible that the contact with her face made his fist open up. We’re only seeing his hand AFTER making contact, not before or during contact.
“Even though she is small, she still has the ability to kill him.”
Stop repeating the same nonsense. She clearly does not have the ability to kill him or even cause any significant injury to him in the manner that she’s attempting it. Again, if she had a gun or a knife, she could kill him. Definitely can’t do it with that shirt unless she drugged him first or gained 300 pounds (but even then she probably couldn’t kill him unless one or both of his arms were also tied behind his back or trapped under her bulk in some way). This nonsense reminds me of people actually saying that Parker was guilty of ATTEMPTED RAPE for what she said on Page 36. Such insane stupidity.
“I’m not saying he was justified in his attack of her, but being panicked and probably angry from being attacked in the first place for no reason”
Again, it’s your opinion that he was attacked for no reason and I think it’s a very stupid opinion. I think she has about 10 great reasons to attack him, the most important one being how heartless he just was in regards to the livelihoods of dozens of Kenyans, people who grow up with a life expectancy in the 40s, with further implications that will deny much needed help to thousands more Kenyans. He fires these workers, shortly after hiring them, by no fault of their own, and he ends a charity that could have done a lot of good. Stasia’s super rich, but not even Oprah can fix the lives of everyone in the world, nor could 1,000 Oprahs or 1,000 Stasias. They need as much help as they can get, and Stasia commits her money to many different causes, cancer research being #1. Also, as I’ve said before, Parker possibly saved Christian’s life by attacking him. Those workers sure didn’t look pleased, but Parker defused their possible attack on him by doing her own before they could reach him.
“it’s just the way your saying ‘She’s smaller’ it’s like saying Christian doesn’t have the right to respond in turn for her actions.”
I’ve never said that or insinuated that in any conceivable way whatsoever and I’m getting sick of morons like you saying I did. Anyone who says anything like that again will be banned.
Also, JSB, you’ve made three comments on this page and all three have said that Parker had the ability to kill him, which no one with a brain agrees with and which multiple people have refuted in detail multiple times. Stop making us repeat the same common sense points about how she can’t kill him as attempted and that the reason for that is her size/strength (and lack of significant weapons). You keep saying that her size doesn’t remove her ability to kill him with the shirt — YES, IT DOES! Try using your brain and actually reading the comic and seeing that she clearly could not hurt him because she’s too small/weak and he was easily able to punch her aside. And not a single person has in any way said that Christian shouldn’t have responded. OBVIOUSLY HE’S NOT GOING TO LET HER KILL HIM, but punching her was unnecessary and went too far. If he just pushed her aside, Guy wouldn’t have punched him obviously, but instead would have ran up and pushed him back to separate them and told him to get the fuck out.
couple things to say:
1: Way to go Guy!
2: “NOT THE FACE” most awesome line EVER!
3: third panel: Love the missing tooth
4: Good thing Stasia didn’t see this because
5: Guy looks REALLY scary in panel 2
great job on the page in general and the whole book thus far. it’s awsome
Heh…well, at this point I guess I mad a fool of myself, huh?
I’ll give up on the “Smaller size” topic, because clearly I lost there, and I apologize for the trouble I’ve caused you. Really…my bad.
By “Parker having the right to attack him”, she doesn’t. Christian has done nothing to Parker herself, but since I’m using my brain now, and hopefully I won’t be attacked for this, she’s taking action while others who do have more right to do so won’t. I guess it’s possibly also for the insults he used.
That’s about it, otherwise, I’m done. I’m very sorry for my stupidity and lack of paying attention to details…and arguing with the writer, who obviously knows more than I do about a characters’ traits and strengths (this is note sarcasm). Again, I love this comic, and I’m sorry I cause you a hard time as well as frustration. Good Luck.
“By ‘Parker having the right to attack him’, she doesn’t. Christian has done nothing to Parker herself, but since I’m using my brain now”
Why do you keep saying this nonsense??? Of course he did things to Parker herself and you’re making me repeat them AGAIN, ugh, and no, you’re still not using your brain. Did you miss the part where Christian openly acted like the only reason Parker and her best friend should ever be seen by Stasia is if they’re dying of something and this is their dying wish that she’s granting? Christian also was clearly told their names but then decided to refer to Parker and Guy as the big one and the little one because he felt they were too inferior to him to even be called by their names. He might as well have just spit in their faces. Read old comments of mine for MANY more reasons why Parker attacked him. The list goes on and on, really, but you continue to ignore all of them.
“Also, JSB, you’ve made three comments on this page and all three have said that Parker had the ability to kill him, which no one with a brain agrees with and which multiple people have refuted in detail multiple times. Stop making us repeat the same common sense points about how she can’t kill him as attempted and that the reason for that is her size/strength (and lack of significant weapons).”
Ok, I just want to state that she DID have the ability to kill him. Now that, that was stated, I would also like to say, the WAY she was trying to kill him, had a 0% chance succeding.
Still, she didn’t need any weapons to kill him. I wrestle in school, I went agaisnt my budy who is litterally twice my size. (He’s 300lbs, I’m 160). I had him tapping out in 30 seconds.
Obviously Parker had to ability to take him to the ground, all she had to do was elbow him in the soft spot on the back of his head if she wanted to actually kill him.
Now before we get into personality, I just wanted to make a point that size, and lack of weapon, while they played a roll, were not the main reason we are not at a Christian funeral right now.
I believe, (My opinion) that the reasons she didn’t kill him, are method (A palm thrust to the nose would have been fine) and Desire. (She didn’t ACTUALLY want to kill him.) She only wanted to hurt an asshole, a feeling we all get, I’m sure, everyday.
There, now that I’ve stated my personal opinion, I will now dive into a pool to avoid flames.
Also, even if Christian hadn’t done anything personally to Parker I think he deserves an attack from anyone in the area for firing those workers and ending his charity for the reason he did, which was pretty disgusting to me. And the reason I’ve been so harsh with you — this being said to the people who will whine about our exchange and say that I’ve been a horrible asshole yet again to a fan — is because you say either false things or opinion based things in such absolutes like “he did not punch her” and “she doesn’t [have the right to attack him]” and so on, which is pretty annoying to me, along with making me (and others) repeat things many times, like about how Parker clearly couldn’t kill him in that situation. Anyway, glad to see that you’re not one of those people who gets super pissed off and sensitive about such things.
I think JSB has a point. Christian has been a massive jerk, granted, but since when does it justify physical violence? Especially since he was walking away and in no way threaten anybody. Heck Parker was strangling him when he hit her, it was basically self-defense.
I’m not gonna weep over Christian’s fate ind you, and I found it highly amusing. But Guy and Parker assaulted him for really weak reasons.
If I punched every name-calling immature losed I crossed paths with I’d be out of a job and have really sore fists within a day ;P
Speaking as a lawyer, Nairobi is an English common law jurisdiction, so has a shares a similar legal tradition with America. Parker commited assault and battery upon Christian, and Christian was well justified to use reasonable force in self-defense. Since Parker’s attack was unprivileged, Guy’s attack is also unprivileged and is also liable in assault and battery. Not only could Christian sue them both in the court of law, they could serve jail time. I’d have to imagine the potential cost ramifications of Christian’s tooth would easily bankrupt Guy if he chose to pursue legal recourse.
Well, It’s probably true that I was very annoying…and no, I don’t get super pissed or sensitive, and most of the time I’ll admit I’m wrong and apologize for it. But I might feel a bit better about this situation without the insults. But then again, since I was stating my false opinions, and taking the comic as absolute, like you said, I guess that would be an insult to you and your comic/story
But now, at least I can look back on this and laugh at my stupidity. Next time I’ll make sure I have all possible info before I argue again. No hard feelings?
to the one who has been beaten by his mother: i am sorry to hear that and it really sucks , may it be father or brother or mother or sister its never fun to be beaten up by some1 of his own family when your growing up
to the same guy who married a girl who beats him up: you kinda had it for you there man…
onto my coment about this comic now
but anyways , ive also had a problem once with one of my formers girlfriend
thats how it went: one day we got into this argument and her already explosive temper exploded and she srated attacking me ,couples of punch there and couples kicks here nothing to be worry about ( she was 5 ft 100lbs max and i go 5”10 and 200….) but the simple fact of being hit repeatedly aint that fun you know?
so after 30-45 seconds i was very tired of bloking and getting her blows so i punched her somewhat hard sqare in her chest , choking tyhe air out of her for a sec or two and instantly stopping her attack on me
while i do not ammend the fact of hitting a woman since i kinda consider myself a gentleman of some sort i have to admit in the past ive had problems that wouldnt be solved by speaking ( them attacking me) but only in reality checking punches so i totaly agree with the fact that christian punched ”the litle one” to free himself , i personally would have mostly done the same
but i personaly have a 1st degree blackbelt in judo that i l;earned mostly to protect my friends and girlfriend in moments they would need it
yes when we look at the situation from a neutral point of view parker was going overboard, you have to see it
BUT parker is the friend of guy
a friend which is a girl on top of that
a friend which is a girl that got punched by a man of average male size while she is of average female size too
its like adding the little cherry on all the creamy topping
now you violence haters of all kind tell me this, would you really not have helped you friend parker?
i sure know i would have , its only normal
but would you really have standed there to get choked/pummeled by a girl even if your twice her size?
i know i would have got my way trough her to get free
personally i hate christian and i love guy , which denotes that the writer of this comic bobby crosby ( who is very nice to speak to if you dare try instead of bashing him here )is doing a wonderfull job in fleshing the characters the way they should be
i personally didnt discover any new factes i didnt knew parker had , but i persnally am thrilled by guy jumping to save her friend . evenn if shes clearly guilty and not staying there and yelling at them to stop like so many protagonists have done lately in romance flicks
so to sum it up
being beaten down by gurls is bad
hitting gurls is bad exept when you must defend yourself against ONGOING assaults
protecting weaker than ourselves friends no matter what is pretty good
congrats to bobby in doing such a great work with the characters of this comic
and i hope you dont get your hopes down on the readers of this comic becauz of such *arhem* bobby , they just really need love
or to be beaten some sense in by their wives
your guess xD
“I think JSB has a point. Christian has been a massive jerk, granted, but since when does it justify physical violence?”
Since the beginning of time maybe? This is Earth you’re living on. And it’s more than just being a massive jerk when you hire poor people to do a job and then fire them almost instantly after that for no reason and also end a charity that could have saved lives.
“Heck Parker was strangling him when he hit her, it was basically self-defense.”
Of course it was self defense. No one’s arguing that! It was slightly excessive self defense, in my opinion, but I do NOT HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH CHRISTIAN PUNCHING PARKER. But I also have absolutely zero problem with Guy punching Christian after Christian punched Parker, because at that point Guy is essentially OBLIGATED to do so. Parker is now in a FIGHT with a guy twice her size and if Guy doesn’t come in and back her up he’s being a horrible friend and a coward, no matter if her attack on Christian was justified or not.
“But Guy and Parker assaulted him for really weak reasons.”
I think only total morons would think Guy punched Christian for a weak reason. Parker’s reasoning was debatable, but in my opinion she was perfectly justified in doing so. Either way, Parker’s already been established as a psycho fan.
“If I punched every name-calling immature losed I crossed paths with I’d be out of a job and have really sore fists within a day”
If you punched every guy who punched your much smaller female friend you’d still have your job and not have sore fists at all.
“Not only could Christian sue them both in the court of law, they could serve jail time.”
LOL. Every single witness absolutely despises Christian and if anything he’d be the one serving jail time for punching Parker. Also, Stasia is one of the most beloved people in Nairobi and all of Kenya for the tens of millions she donates to charity there and for the personal work she does to help their people. Any possible court case would go however she wants it to go.
I don’t think there’s gonna be legal ramifications to what happened, even though in real life Guy would be pretty much doomed since people like Chistian have excellent lawyers.
It’s just not the focus of the story.
I don’t think it’s even possible to legally go to Africa the way they did in the comic. Wouldn’t they need to get their passports, get authorisation to leave the airport AND get a few shots to boost their immune systems before going?
It’s just a very fun and engaging cartoon, with great chemistry between the two leads. The story works very well the way it’s writen, and it’s at least as realistic as anything Hollywood releases in an average year
“If you punched every guy who punched your much smaller female friend you’d still have your job and not have sore fists at all.”
If my much smaller friend picks a fight with a guy twice her size, wrestles him to the ground and starts strangling him with a dirty rag, she’s welcome to the consequences of her actions. As long as the guy isn’t using excessive force.
And let’s face it. Christian couldn’t use eccessive force even if he tried
Oh, and thanks for calling me a moron for disagreeing with you. I really feel welcome now.
“Wouldn’t they need to get their passports, get authorisation to leave the airport AND get a few shots to boost their immune systems before going?”
At least a dozen people have been banned in the disgusting arguments about that topic. I forget which pages to refer you to — somewhere in the 40s mostly. Or just google “marrymemovie” and “passport.”
“Oh, and thanks for calling me a moron for disagreeing with you.”
Just to repeat, you said that Guy had a weak reason for punching Christian and I said that anyone who thinks defending his best friend from a guy twice her size who just punched her is a weak reason is a moron. If you’re still saying that’s a weak reason, you’re one of the stupidest people in the world.
“And let’s face it. Christian couldn’t use eccessive force even if he tried”
It doesn’t matter, but I’m quite confused by that. He’s a big guy and almost certainly works out. Most movie stars, especially young ones like him, are in great shape, and he’s also incredibly stupid and clearly doesn’t really understand how the world works, and just maybe he’d start beating the crap out of Parker if Guy didn’t jump in and help.
I think how it is interesting how one comic can prompt such ideas and debates. It takes a talented person to create situations that can stir such emotions. A talented writer can almost make the reader dispise any character that they wish. A talented writer can create situations that give a feeling of justification for the reader.
I personally enjoyed seeing Christian getting pounced, I also enjoyed a friend protecting another. No matter what opinions we may have about this comic I believe that some of the readers (including myself) can agree that this comic is fulfilling it’s purpose: to entertain. I enjoy this comic and I look forward to more updates.
Geez, even if Guy’s action is not justified, it’s just what anyone loving and eventually hotblooded will do if your best friend ist knocked down, even if it was just for some reason to do that. So cut it out and read the comic as a comic or leave it be. That’s not “real life” or “how to teach my child the proper actions in any difficult situations of life”
I’m female and I feel that Christian only overreacted slightly. Could he have bucked the much smaller Parker off or somesuch if he tried? Probably. However, people need to consider that if Parker actually was succeeding in choking him in any way, whether by airway constriction or a half-assed blood choke, the logical part of Christian’s brain was shutting down very, very rapidly and subsiding to panic. The human mind is DESIGNED to react this way, and he may not have done the same thing had she been, say, pulling his hair, when his logical problem-solving would had remained intact. And, in fairness, he’s not all that bright to start.
Guy’s reaction, I’m neutral on (though I’ll admit I lean more towards “go Guy!” than not. ). It’s awesome that he’s willing to defend his friend and is so chivalrous, but Christian wasn’t entirely justified. Of course, maybe he didn’t expect the poor bastard to have such a glass jaw.
ViolenceRules: I’m sorry about your personal history, and thank you for sharing it. I didn’t mean in my previous comment that women, being generally smaller, have the right to be abusive and violent. I don’t think Parker was right to attack him at all. (I don’t know what world you’re living in, Bobby, but where I come from people don’t get assaulted just on the grounds of being a douche.) My point was that Christian, being larger, should have been able to know how to get her off without using that level of force.
My problems were with poorly written characters, period. Parker’s shown to be insane? We already know this. Christian’s shown to be an idiot? Same. Guy is protective of Parker, no matter how crazy her actions? The punch was out of character, and IMO really stupid, but we know this about him already. Showing people out of character doesn’t make them well-rounded.
Why, yes, I have been banned from here before, thank you for asking. Bitter? Not so much. I’d like to know *why* I was banned (I was Troglodyke, my critisicm back then was that Parker is really one-dimensional- see a theme here?- and I didn’t lie or insult you personally), but it’s not that critical. Kind of funny, though, that you ban people from here for insulting you but you feel free to call your fan base morons and idiots (and worse in previous pages).
“I’m female and I feel that Christian only overreacted slightly.”
Just want to say again that I agree with this description and have never said otherwise. I also want to repeat that I don’t think the justification level of Christian’s punch matters in any way for Guy’s response. I think Guy’s perfectly justified in punching Christian even if Christian was perfectly justified in punching Parker. Sometimes things just have to happen that way, no matter how they were started. Didn’t World War I happen because all these countries had treaties with other countries where they HAD to come to their aid if they got into a war, so almost the whole world ended up fighting just because some moron’s son was killed? Sort of a similar thing here, except luckily no one died in this skirmish.
Great comic, honestly. I’d definitely be happy to see this on the big screen at some point in time (as long as the acting isn’t just plain awful).
I’m just wondering, after Christian hits Parker, how does he get into a semi-upright position before Guy gets up to him so that he can get punched to the ground? I thought he was still on the ground when he hit Parker.
If you saw your friend get hit by a guy you know for a fact is a pompous jerk, I’m pretty sure most people would react immediately with some sort of violent type action, or at least a “Get the **** away from my friend” response. It doesn’t really matter whether it was the “smart” thing to do or not. Not trying to say I disagree at all with Guy’s reasons, since I think he had perfectly good reasons for what he did and honestly, I’d have done the same thing in his position.
Parker does make some very amusing situations, doesn’t she?
“I don’t know what world you’re living in, Bobby, but where I come from people don’t get assaulted just on the grounds of being a douche.”
#1, on Earth people get assaulted and killed all the time for just being a douche. #2, what he did was a lot worse than just being a douche, as I’ve explained 3,000 times already on this page alone. If you can’t understand that, and I know you can’t, since you can’t understand ANYTHING AT ALL and you prove this with everything you say, then that’s too bad.
“Guy is protective of Parker, no matter how crazy her actions? The punch was out of character, and IMO really stupid, but we know this about him already. Showing people out of character doesn’t make them well-rounded.”
How the fuck is it out of character for a nice guy to defend his friend??? It’s extremely in character. Also, the “out of character” complaint is almost always incredibly wrong and incredibly stupid and that’s certainly the case here. First of all, we don’t know a whole lot about about Guy yet, so it’s basically impossible to say that something he does is out of character. Also, people in real life act “out of character” CONSTANTLY. How many times have you said “I can’t believe I did that” or “I can’t believe he did that” or “I can’t believe you did that — that doesn’t sound like you at all!”? It happens all the time. When people act “out of character” is when they’re most revealing of their true character. But it makes no sense on any level whatsoever to say that Guy’s punch was out of character. Please try to explain to me how it’s conceivably stupid for Guy to defend his best friend who was just punched by a guy twice her size. Do it in an e-mail, though, since you’re obviously banned yet again for being a lying asshole.
“I’d like to know *why* I was banned (I was Troglodyke, my critisicm back then was that Parker is really one-dimensional- see a theme here?- and I didn’t lie or insult you personally)”
You definitely did at least one of those things and probably both. My e-mail history doesn’t go back that far, so I can’t see the deleted comments, but I’m 99.9% sure that you made at least one comment after the only one that I can find and I’m quite sure it contained more lies and personal insults. You already insinuated that you made at least one comment that didn’t go up. ANYWAY, here’s the comment that I did find –
First you confused me with Eisu, then you said that I’m condescending to Parker and that I only used a lesbian in the story to distract from the main plotline. You also said a bunch of stupid shit that made no sense. See my response –
My guess is you made one more comment after that and it was so annoying and filled with more personal shit about me that I deleted it and banned you.
“Kind of funny, though, that you ban people from here for insulting you but you feel free to call your fan base morons and idiots (and worse in previous pages).”
In almost all cases I only insult people after they’ve already insulted me, and those people, like you, are very rarely fans of the comic. I do like, though, how you use the excuse of “I like to look at the pretty pictures” for the reason why you continue to read every page of a comic you hate so much and have been banned from the comments of. And in the other cases where I insult people it’s usually a general thing like “Only morons would think Guy was stupid to defend his friend in a fight,” which is just a fact. Anyone who disagrees with that should kill themselves for being so insanely fucking stupid.
I’ve never seen so many posts made by Bobby…
People, this is not a hard fucking concept.
As Bobby has clearly said, and if you spent more than three seconds thinking about it:
Parker attacked Christian for pissing off Stasia. Parker tries to choke him with a shirt. Christian hits Parker in self-defense, however he over-does it (or this is at least how it is supposed to come off). Guy steps in for Parker to defend her, not caring whether she’s in the right or wrong, but rather sticking up for his friend.
Those of you who are bitching about how Guy is in the wrong to step in for Parker remember, it’s a matter of opinion. If you don’t like it, stop reading the comic. If you don’t want to stop reading the comic, stop bitching and sending personal attacks at Bobby. If you’re incapable of either, shoot yourself. Simple.
Bobby feels that it’s okay to attack people who say mean things to you. This might be messed up logic, but he’s the writer so deal with it. Besides, it’s not like anyone is out of character.
1. Parker is insane, we know this
2. Christian is an ass, we know this
3. Guy is loyal to friends, we know this
They all show these traits in new ways (Pounching, bitch punching, and falcon punching), but they’re still the same traits on the same people.
Bobby Crosby writes: Didn’t World War I happen … because some moron’s son was killed?
Sorry to nitpick, but moron seems unfair. Reactionary fool might be appropriate, but moron is perhaps better suited to serious inbreds, like Carlos II of Spain, whose mother was also his aunt and grandmother. But even that is unfair since it was not his fault. But he was sterile (as well as physically and mentally disabled), and his passing kicked off the Wars of the Spanish Succession (1701-1714). That was a world war that also realigned global power and left at least several hundreds of thousands of people dead.
As for Franz Ferdinand, he was not expected to become the heir. Many people had to die before his murder to set up the situation. (Real life stories often seem less believable than fiction. =)
But what does this have to do with the comic, you ask? Ah, because the real cause was a bad marriage and a meddling father!
Archduke Rudolf, Ferdinand’s cousin and heir to the empire, had an unhappy marriage. So, Rudolf got himself a mistress, of whom his father did not approve. So unstable Rudolf went and killed his mistress and himself. Since Rudolf was only heir of his father, the throne went to the king’s brothers. Since the middle brother, Archduke Maximillian, got himself killed two decades earlier while playing emperor in the foreign land of Mexico, that left Archduke Charles Louis as heir. And Charles deferred in favor of his eldest son, Franz Ferdinand.
If Ferdinand’s meddling Uncle (Emperor Franz Joseph) had consented fully to Ferdinand’s wedding (and not hoped for inbreeding instead), Ferdinand and his wife Sophie probably would not have been in Sarajevo and someone else would have gotten killed instead, delaying the war until some other incident started it.
The US NY Times article announcing Charles Louis’ death is actually rather amusing, by the way:
>>That’s your opinion that she has no right to attack him — I think she has every right in the world to do so and that a lot more pieces of shit like him should be attacked.<<
Violence Rules replies:
Really? Tell me, if everybody who fails to provide jobs to hungry Kenyans deserves to be attacked, won’t that mean that three hundred million Americans are due to get hit any time now?
Bobby, you have proven what I said. You created an imaginary person called ‘Christian,’ and your imaginary person does not resemble a real person in any way, unless you intend Christian to be a schizophrenic or a drug addict, or both. No real person would actually imagine that a straight woman — a woman whom he knows to be straight — is as likely to marry a woman as a man. No real person is likely to distinguish between a man and a woman by calling them ‘the big one’ and ‘the little one.’ What, is Christian the only person in this nation who cannot see a person’s gender? Or, is Christian the only person in this nation who considers height a more important distinguishing characteristic than gender? No real person could spend weeks or months working in Kenya and not know that the people of Kenya do not speak Spanish — that is simply impossible. And, if Christian thinks the workers speak Spanish, why doesn’t he fire them in Spanish? And, if Christian is already rich, why does he spend thousands — or millions — trying to ‘win the love’ of a rich girl? And, if Christian wants the love of this rich girl so much, why does he walk away from his project in such a casual manner? Is he stoned?
The answers are all obvious. Christian is not in any way, shape, or form a real person, and he does not resemble a real person. You invented Christian for one reason and for one reason only. You know that your female market likes seeing women attack men, and you knew that your female market will pay money for a product in which men beat up men who protect themselves from women who attack men. This board is already full of messages from women who are glad to see you affirm this ‘basic right.’ Encouraging domestic violence should make you good money, but it is still wrong.
I tried to post this three times, and it would not go through. The error signal says “Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for WordPress, ” so it does not look like this message will go through. Bobby, your server is down more often than it is up. Maybe you should look for a different hosting package.
“Those of you who are bitching about how Guy is in the wrong to step in for Parker remember, it’s a matter of opinion. If you don’t like it, stop reading the comic. If you don’t want to stop reading the comic, stop bitching and sending personal attacks at Bobby. If you’re incapable of either, shoot yourself. Simple.”
in truth, you don’t need a closed loop to strangle someone to death, you only need a closed loop to strangle yourself. If you, and I don’t care how small you may be, are kneeling on top of someone’s back with a rope, a scarf, or anything else long enough around the front of their neck, you can kill them.
now despite what I just said, I will agree that her chances of killing him from that position are slim to less than none. In order to actually kill him, she could place her knee at his spine, wrap the scarf around her hands, and then pull REALLY hard.
on a side note, what I meant by the whole ‘good thing Stasia didn’t see’ was she probably couldn’t see his face since she was behind him.
also, sorry if this makes me sound like a total goob but what is the whole ‘falcon punch’ reference about?
Bobby, taking time to appease or justify yourself to the vast minority of the dissenters out there that hate your *in-progress* work of Marry Me is only going to be a 100% a waste of time. Leave the detail wrangling to us supporter fanboys/gals.
There’s no need wasting your energy on those attention-grabbing mental/emotional vampires and set it towards continuing your work. Saves on headaches and bad mood days too, if I remember correctly. ;2)
Anyways, my 2 cents say this comic is a good read thus far, and I can’t make any final personal judgments until the story is done.
Why does everyone keep saying that parker was strangling christian? Since when is pulling back on a shirt the same thing as strangling? Sounds like people are just pulling arguments out of their ass for the sake of arguing.
Have someone pull back on a shirt that is around your neck, and keep a hand on the shirt(just like Christian), and you will be able to breathe just fine. Also make sure that you are about 200 pounds, and whoever is ontop of you is 110(at the most). All you will have to do to get up is roll over, not smack the person in the face.
Her violence was justified, so stop trying to pull these stupid arguments out of nowhere. Jeez.
You know what, I’m going to make a complaint about the comments.
I have always taken the comments as being a place to offer constructive critisisms. I’ve read back and seen that someone told me not to read so much into it – but speaking from a writer’s standpoint (it’s what I do for a living – I work for a Newspaper) I would want nicely worded critisism if I thought it would help the integrity of the story.
My problem is this. I would never. EVER. Attack Bobby.
I think he’s come up with a delightful, unusual premise for a story. Yes, I’m having trouble swallowing Parker attacking Christian – but as I said back in one of my comments, Parker has *always* been over the top and as I said last page, my personal feelings on the subject aside – I think she acted in character.
I’m not (trying to be) overly critical, I’m trying to voice my opinions to Bobby, in the hopes that if he really does get a shot to make it to the movies, that he has a chance to review some of the Constructive comments to make the movie as successful as he could ever want it to be. It’s been my experience that having an outsider’s view can only help sometimes.
That said, the uproar from the story based on the previous pages should be enough to think that in this story’s next incarnation, it might need to be looked at. Considering a sample of people who respond (based on marketing results from retail stores) most people don’t complain when they have a problem with something, they simply never come back. So the story complaints that your readers are having mean that there have to be some people who have simply left.
I don’t want you to lose readers. Thus far, I’ve really liked this story. I’m a hopeless romantic, so my heart is beating to see more interaction between Guy and Stacia – but really that’s just me totally loving all aspects of Romance all the time. (Guess what I write as a hobby )
Honestly, though, I’m disgusted with some of the critics here. If you’re not trying to be helpful, get out. There’s no reason to be mean.
wow this page is really good and we see more of Guys’ character. Not every guy will punch another guy out. Plus this is the first time Guy has been seen looking so absolutely pissed. Then sseing Parker’s comment makes me think that Guy does have a temper at times. and probably defended her a few other previous times with the same result.
haha, I just read the bit where someone was complaining cos a COMIC wasn’t realistic…mwhahaa… have they ever heard of batman..? awesome page btw, that Christian sure got what was coming to him.
Annnnd if a man hits a woman it is soo normal for another man or woman to then knock him to the ground and pound on him a little bit. Its just how it goes and anyone who has said or thinks otherwise has clearly been living on the moon in a small moon hut with no tv or radio for the last billion years!
This comic rocks and people who dont like it should just not read it, i don’t get why they bother commenting at all…I love reading all the funny comments that people put while I’m waiting for new updates and all you complainers just ruin my frickin day.
peace.
I personally feel that Parker wasn’t justified in attacking Christian. I don’t agree with your reasonings to why she did it. I feel her reasons were wrong. It’s not okay to hit people just because they pissed you off. It’s barbaric.
It’s really disheartening to see the writer of this comic resorting to insults and name-bashing when someone interprets his work differently than they intended. And because of Bobby’s insults, I can’t read this comic anymore.
The comments are even more entertaining than the comic
I really don’t understand why you get so upset about some comments. On Topic: I think in this situation there is the choice of not punching Christian. I probably wouldn’t do it (so i am obviously a moron and maybe I’ll shoot myself for that) – but that is no reason to stop reading the comic because on the one hand it is a fictional story and it doesn’t have to be like I see the world – especially because it is supposed to be funny and on the other hand I don’t hate everything that doesn’t fit my expectations… my life would be even more miserable than it is already
If I learn one thing here: Don’t discuss with people who escalate everything to a personal level. It’s pointless and you can’t complain if you respond on the same level. That goes for both sides obviously.
Peace!
Let me think outloud for a minute and see if I can get anywhere with this:
Step 1 — Christian is giant douche, and insults Parker and Guy. Both of them are probably itching to hit him, but they know it wouldn’t be justified, so they restrain themselves.
Step 2 — Christian cancels charity project and fires workers. Totally within his rights to do, but still kinda repulsive. Guy still restrains himself. Psycho fan Parker does not restrain herself.
Step 3 — Parker attacks Christian, rather ineffectively. Guy tries to stop her, since he’s still on the “restraint” side of the equation.
Step 4 — Parker looks back at Guy, giving Christian an opening to counterattack her. Counterattack is only slightly more effective than Parker’s initial attack, and rather more justified.
Step 5 — Guy’s kinda been itching to hit this guy for awhile, but since he was thinking logically, he knew he didn’t have a defensible reason. Now he has an excuse! Granted, not the best excuse, but if you squint the right way… So since Guy was already mad at him, he allows his mind to jump to the (incorrect) conclusion that the best way to defend Parker is to Falcon-Punch Christian.
I think pretty much everyone will agree that in firing all those workers, yanking away all that promised charity etc. etc. Christian DESERVED at LEAST a punch to the face, but of course LEGALLY any physical violence done to him was unjustified. I don’t think people are really making a clear distinction there.
Also I am wondering if part of the reason there has been so much debate/confusion might be due to, well….
First- this is a webcomic: between each set of actions we wait days to see what consequence they have. Generally in the setting of a movie we can see these consequences more or less immediately, and these help us, among other things, determine the message/point that whoever is presenting the story to us is trying to send/make. In the case of a webcomic however we have no such instant clarification and thus can sometimes misinterpret the message the author is trying to send because we haven’t seen any consequences- which until the next page gets posted can make us feel like there *are* no consequences (which is probably not going to be the case) and that perception can drastically change what the author’s point/message seems to be.
Two- Parker is a zany more-or-less loveable main character and because this comic revolves around Guy and Stasia, her being on Guy and Stasia’s side can automatically make people (conciously or not) label her a “good guy” while Christian is pretty much undebateably a Bad Guy (re: firing workers, slighting Guy & Parker, etc.). Thus, especially without the aforementioned consequences to help us filter the message, it is not hard to see how it seems like the story is trying to tell us that Parker was totally justified in attacking, Christian was totally unjustified in retaliating in any way, and guy definitely should have punched out Christian because He Hit A Girl.
But really- the story hasn’t finished talking. So all we *actually* know is that we have three people each in their own intense, emotional situations and all three of them have reacted with (varying levels of) irrational things.
I guess beyond that, the only debate is in a difference of personal opinion on who was right/wrong, justified/unjustified etc. And while stating your opinion on it is all well and good I guess, when you get into long debates on the issue, you’re more trying to change other fans’ opinions of a social issue rather than commenting on the comic, which is all well and good if you like debating, but is the comments board for a webcomic really the place for that?
In closing ( I think I just wrote a whole essay)- remember when Parker told Stasia that Guy was a pirate and everyone was like “WHAT A HORRIBLE FRIEND I HATE HER!†and then the next page or two came along and it became clear that Parker was not being serious and not expecting to be taken seriously? So while at first it could have seemed like the story was showing us what a bad friend Parker was, the point of that exchange was actually in showing us that Parker really is crushed by this development and Stasia is a really nice person?
So my point is I guess that in reading this we should keep in mind that we are reading this in webcomic form, not watching a movie, so in this case instant judgement = bad (because we don’t yet know how things’ll work out), rampant speculation = good (because we don’t yet know how things’ll work out ).
No matter how politically incorrect this comic can ever be, I love it~!
And about that comment earlier that Guy would become anything women love, no, I don’t think so, since he’s not /my/ ideal man.
Maybe I /already/ like painted toenails? ((I don’t, though -sweatdrop-.))
Maybe I don’t want to date a geek?
And I don’t read this comic because I think Guy’s hot. That’s what Fruits Basket is for. I read this comic because it has amazing art, diverse characters, and an original plot. As a writer/artist myself, there’s no way in hell I could do any better.
@ Moss:”If you’re incapable of either, shoot yourself.”
What if you don’t have a gun? XD
@ General:
I don’t know if its fair saying Christain has a glass jaw. My school counseller can curl 200lbs with his arms, easy. Maybe Guy works out too? It wouldn’t be the first time i’ve seen a super strong counciler.
On top of it all… you can tell from last page that Guy does NOT agree with Parker attacking Christian, even telling her to get off him, but gets pissed after he sees him slap her. Yeah, Parker was impulsive (well, is and forever will be), but Guy doesn’t agree with her attacking him and by hell he doesn’t either with him slapping her like that.
Let’s say Christian didn’t fight back: Guy would come over and get Parker off of him and, most assuredly, he would even apologize to the moron even if he wasn’t at fault to begin with. By Elvis’ hair: he FIRED people he HIRED out of a RUSE to get Stasia interested and you people think he didn’t deserve AT LEAST a “Parker Rush”? Hell, not like she can even DO any damage! And even then, he could’ve just PUSHED her away instead of SLAPPING her — that’s not self-defense, that’s abusing strength, and to pay back that abusing strength, there came “teh Guy”.
I seriously can’t see why this comic gets that much controversy. I have to admit I was at first a tad mad at how Bobby seemed to lash out at people who attacked the comic but changed my mind downright when, after a while, I saw people attacking HIM instead of criticizing the comic and, those who DID criticize, did it based on lies other than actual facts just out of being a “happy troll”.
For example, I guess I could criticize Bobby on how horrible the updating schedule is, stating that it COULD be better if we could get at least three or two days of updates a week (hell, even ONE a week) but, considering how he manages between I-don’t-know-how-many-comics and Eisu being busy himself he can’t even update HIS OWN website, I think it’s moreso of an extra for us to have something from both of them at an irregular basis than have nothing at all. Yeah, I do NOT like that updates are so sporadic and off-schedule, but I at least try to get in their shoes before lashing out at them. Bobby has a LOT to do already to even have time to reply to us (which he does — never seen a writer actually take as much time to reply to the comments section before) and Eisu, although awesome as he is, is probably busy-as-sin with his own stuff to update his own space.
On top of it all, this is supposed to go as a “screenplay” of sorts, as a run-test for a possible movie — have you seen or known how many scripts and modifications a screenplay suffers before meeting completion? I’m sure Bobby has thought of a thousand ways to improve it that, as of now, he can’t change and Eisu has probably seen a thousand ways to improve his art that we haven’t even seen before.
Of course, Bobby and Eisu, if I’m wrong there and you can clarify… please do? I’m actually curious.
Also… are they forcing you to buy books or download from Wowio? Are they forcing you to come to the website? Are they charging you a dime? When they DO charge you a lot and we get NOTHING in return then yeah, I’ll turn to bitch-mode but, as of now, I’ll keep squealing about Guy until my wet dream of having one of my own is complete.
I work at comic book store out here in Utah and I was delighted to see Marry Me on page 244 of the new Previews! I’ll certainly order one for myself and at least one for my store as well! Big congratulations.
Oh, and way to go Guy for slugging him. Speaking as a girl who was once attacked it’s good to be able to throw a punch. Having a big guy friend to throw a punch for you is almost as good, though. Love the slightly mangled hand in panel five. Hitting someone in the face hurts.
Here’s to all those morons, assholes and liars out there – FUCK YOU. You’re horrible pieces of shit. Whoever criticizes Bobby’s work or reasoning should just fucking get a life.
I prefer “moron” to “guy” or “girl” or “person,” since almost everyone ever born is a huge moron. Also, Rosebud’s comment is the only one in the history of this site that I haven’t read every word of (and I don’t plan to).
Violence Rules: You’re a total fucking moron and you’re extremely annoying, so I’ll waste some more time responding to your nonsense because I love wasting time –
“Tell me, if everybody who fails to provide jobs to hungry Kenyans deserves to be attacked”
There’s a huge difference between providing jobs and then snatching them away as compared to never providing the jobs at all. He also set up a charity and then ended it before it got going. And don’t forget the 50,000 other damn reasons why Parker attacked him that I’ll try not to repeat to you for the 50,000th fucking time. Read the fucking comments. You’re banned obviously for ignoring every single thing I said a MILLION times and instead repeating your same fucking disgusting nonsense about how I PROMOTED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SOMEHOW — WHAT THE FUCK! Seriously, you can’t actually BELIEVE that — you must be some old hater of mine who is just trying to piss me off for fun and slander me.
“You created an imaginary person called ‘Christian,’ and your imaginary person does not resemble a real person in any way”
Oh, right, and all Hollywood movie stars are as real as possible, right? Fucking moron. He’s a male Britney Spears except a lot MORE normal.
“No real person could spend weeks or months working in Kenya and not know that the people of Kenya do not speak Spanish — that is simply impossible.”
This was his first day in Kenya, as was strongly implied already in many ways, one of which being that he said Stasia’s dad told him that she usually comes here after her tours end. Also, the main other language he’s been around in his life is Spanish, spending most of his life in California, so that’s all he can think of at the time.
“And, if Christian thinks the workers speak Spanish, why doesn’t he fire them in Spanish?”
Use your brain, moron. He only talked to them in Spanish because they weren’t responding in English to his cries for help and he tried anything he could to get them to understand that they had to help him.
“And, if Christian is already rich, why does he spend thousands — or millions — trying to ‘win the love’ of a rich girl?”
Huh? Don’t get it. Read the comic. She loves giving to charity and her dad told Christian to set up a charity near hers in Kenya so she’d possibly like him more. Makes perfect sense.
“You invented Christian for one reason and for one reason only. You know that your female market likes seeing women attack men, and you knew that your female market will pay money for a product in which men beat up men who protect themselves from women who attack men.”
LOL, you’re legally insane. I’m scared of you. None of those things ever entered my mind in any conceivable way and no one with a brain thinks they would have.
“Encouraging domestic violence should make you good money, but it is still wrong.”
Domestic violence??? You think Parker is either related to Christian or in an intimate relationship with him??? By definition it CAN’T be domestic violence. One person attacked another person because they were super pissed off at him for many good reasons and that person got punched in the face for making that attack. Fuck you for insanely saying that I’m encouraging domestic violence, you piece of shit.
“Bobby, your server is down more often than it is up. Maybe you should look for a different hosting package.”
Do you think there’s any chance in the world that I’m not aware of this?
“That said, the uproar from the story based on the previous pages should be enough to think that in this story’s next incarnation, it might need to be looked at.”
What it tells me is that it’s perfect how it is. If there’s never an uproar over anything, then you’ve written a very boring story where nothing of interest happens. Sparking debate is ideal.
“So the story complaints that your readers are having mean that there have to be some people who have simply left.”
Obviously — people leave constantly for various reasons and tons leave simply because of my attitude in the comments. And many more encourage others to read partly because of the comments and because of fun controversial things in the story. It’s amazing the audience has stayed as large as it is with how often we’ve updated the site in the past several months.
“It’s not okay to hit people just because they pissed you off. It’s barbaric.”
Parker is a barbarian. Again, this is Earth 2009, not Earth 2900, where maybe there are no more barbarians. In the real world some people attack people because they piss them off. I don’t know what world some of you morons are living in.
“It’s really disheartening to see the writer of this comic resorting to insults and name-bashing when someone interprets his work differently than they intended.”
I’ve never once insulted or name-bashed someone simply because they interpret my work differently than intended, liar, and you could search for years and never find one example of that.
“And because of Bobby’s insults, I can’t read this comic anymore.”
You should have never read it in the first place since you apparently think that all characters in any story should act like they’re living in the year 2900.
“I think in this situation there is the choice of not punching Christian. I probably wouldn’t do it (so i am obviously a moron and maybe I’ll shoot myself for that)”
What’s moronic is to think it’s fake or stupid of Guy to defend his best friend who is half the size of her opponent in a fight that just started. You’d simply be a bad friend and a coward for not acting similar, but not a moron.
Nice rant bobby, it’s been a long time since i read one that actually stayed on it stated topic.
anyways, back to the subject at hand, which it you story and Remy’s art.
Eisu the art is great as always. the look on Christian’s face was perfect, you captured the look of “foresight of incoming pain” flawlessly.
and bobby, first im glad you server problems are over…… well until the next problem. anyways, im glad you proved my theory about Guy, that he is the sort of man that would Knock a man out for hitting a women, but will not allow someone to kick that person when they are down. most people in that situation would have let parker take the kick.
and here’s a few problem, mainly the drop down quick link to though the archives is stopped at page 57.
“Nice rant bobby, it’s been a long time since i read one that actually stayed on it stated topic.”
Easy to stay on topic when I just quote people and respond exactly to what they said, which I always do.
“the drop down quick link to though the archives is stopped at page 57.”
I’ve edited it before to include it up to 59, but then it disappeared. I just changed it to include 60 and it’s working for me on some pages but not all, blah. Long story with the server change stuff, very very very annoying.
“anyways, im glad you proved my theory about Guy, that he is the sort of man that would Knock a man out for hitting a women, but will not allow someone to kick that person when they are down. most people in that situation would have let parker take the kick.”
Thanks for pointing that out. I guess Violence Rules didn’t notice that Guy worked to PREVENT violence there.
bobby don’t waste your time responding to them. they are like almost everyone you find on a forum or chat room. since they are anonymous they believe they can get away with saying anything so they say it.
I, personally, do think that men should have the right to defend themselves against women who are beating on them.
A clear point here, however… If Parker was able to scream out for help, his breathing was not exactly cut off, so he was in no danger. He paniced (because of a 97 pound lesbian on his back) and smacked her without thinking.
And… Got OWNED!
Guy is great for what he did, I think. Friends are friends, and asshats are asshats. If Guy had walked over and said “Can’t we all just get along?” no one would be happy right now.
I also think that Parker is a nut job… And I love her for it.
First time I’ve commented on this web-comic, but I figured it was about time I did.
LOVE the expression on Parker’s face in the last panel! In previous pages, Parker wasn’t exactly one of my favourite characters, but she’s kinda grown on me, and I can fully empathise (?) with what she does here.
Heck, if someone was being a douche to me, or other people, or just being plain stupid as Christian has been in the last few pages, my first instinct (and, probably, action) would be to deck him (or in Parker’s case, throttle/strangle/neckburn him with what looks like one of his own ‘Stately Manor’ t-shirts!) then worry about justification later. I’m impulsive like that, and, so it appears, is Parker.
As for what Christian and Guy do…
Well, what Christian did was (in all probability) unnecessary (in hindsight), and Guy obviously let him know what he thought about it.
I really think that’s all there is to it =)
Great comic, guys. Love the artwork and the writing.
bobby and crew great work as always. cant wait to see the next one. all thats missing from panel two is guy starting to turn green, and saying “puny man hurt hulks friend” “hulk hurt puny man”
Wow, was not expecting that one. Guess we all can be mistaken, and I am rooting Guy on from here! Though, my concern, what will his wife think?! Ah well, too late now. Can’t wait for next post!
If I had millions of dollars, I’m sure publishing this would be a priority
Really great comic… seems very short though…
On an off-hand note, I think it should be illegal for people to post comments that are longer than 75 words >=( especially the ones with destructive criticism, you can always stop reading the comic morons.
While I do not, in any way, condone Parker’s actions in attacking Christian, as a man who has been literally attacked by a woman, I think Christian uses much more force than is necessary. Due to a chain of events that I won’t go into, I was attacked by a woman who repeatedly tried to hit me in the groin and claw at my face with her nails. Call me chauvinistic if you like, but I will not hit a woman unless my life depends on it. I subdued the woman without striking her, even though a well placed punch would have saved me from many scratches.
People keep using the word slap when referring to how Christian hit Parker. This is stupid. He backhanded her. A well placed backhand, while obviously not as strong as a direct punch, can cause almost as much damage as what we call a “back fist†strike in karate. A well placed backhand can break a nose, knock loose teeth, and in extreme cases break a cheek (though unlikely) or dislocate a jaw. What Christian does is the equivalent of me body-slamming a five year old for putting me in a headlock. He was attacked first, and it is arguable that the attack was unjustified, but all he had to do was stand the fuck up.
Furthermore, anyone who bashes Guy for hitting him is either extremely callous or has never had to watch a friend get hurt when they could do something to stop it. I have not been in a lot of fights, but the few I have been in have been coming to the defense of (usually drunken or outnumbered) friends. Unless your friend is a frequently violent person who looks for trouble, I really don’t see how you could not come to the aid of a friend in a fight, regardless of who started it, especially a friend who is vastly outclassed.
Lastly, for those of you whining about how “in real life†people don’t just haul off and hit someone, or how they’d be legally responsible, etcetera, etcetera… guess what? Millions of fist fights take place everyday, most of which aren’t reported to the authorities, and they are often fought over much more trivial stuff than this. Furthermore, they’re in a third world country with only people who hate Christian as witnesses. Anyone who thinks the violence in this scene is poorly written or unrealistic is delusional.
Lastly, in Christian’s defense to all the glass jaw comments, have you ever been hit hard enough to get a tooth knocked out? Especially when he doesn’t appear to have been hit in the mouth, but the jaw the tooth being collateral damage. A hit like that would stop most people that are not used to being punched in their tracks.
hot damn… that’s a lot of comments.
anyways, my thoughts on the past 2 pages:
personally, i can’t blame guy for falcon punching christian
“why?” you might ask? i’ve experienced this personally before. a good friend of mine (she’s my batchmate in the sorority counterpart of my fraternity) once stepped in while some bully was harassing some freshmen one day. what did the dude do? open-handed slap straight to her cheek. now there i was, seeing a close friend get hurt for trying to help out. im not going to be standing there like a jack-ass and think “how do i feel about it? was she in the wrong for stepping in? is she alright?” i rushed the guy and landed a solid hit to his diaphragm. was i excessive? in hindsight, perhaps. but to be honest, at that single moment, the only thing running through my mind was that my friend was hurt.
some here say that guy overreacted. but then again, we were not in the scenario itself. it was not our closest friend that got backhanded by a jerk. did guy do the right thing? i won’t pass judgement on that. to each their own, i guess. i only see these things:
1. christian was a jerk for staging a charity just to get back with stasia and an asshole for just up and firing the workers just because his plan didn’t work
2. parker jumped christian for reason no.1
3. christian backhanded parker for reason no.2
4. guy saw his friend get hurt and did the instinctive thing to do
5. christian just got his ass WHOOPED by our neighborhood counselor/nice guys
EISU, you’re artwork rocks. it really gives life to BOBBY’s writing style
BOBBY, amazing work here. to be able to draw so much passion from your readers is a mark of an excellent writer
greatest page ever, that dude deserves the final blow that Parker is about to deliver, lol. Lets see how many girls that dude gets with that gap between his teeth now, lol.
Guy could have defused the situation easily without smashing the man’s face, especially that, in his line of work, he probably got at least an overview of basic techniques to do just that. Then again Chistian was a complete jerk and he slapped Parker in the struggle.
It’s understandable that Guy saw red. It was an irresponsible thing to do and doesn’t soleve anything, but it’s perfectly understandable.
I do find the assumption that small women being harmless in a fight somewhat dubious. My sister, sister in law and a few of my cousins are Parker’s size and can deffinitely do some serious damage in a fist fight. Heck the local news were all over a 12 year old shoolgirl who killed a 14 year old boy who was bullying her.
Well this is my first post here but I have been here awhile since the pirate comic. I found this through Eisu and the Kotor comic project. Now first let me just say that I read a lot of web comics Worldbreak, Misfile, No need, Last days of foxhound, Bob and george, 18-bit, and so on and so on.
Now because of that background I can say with a pretty good idea that Bobby your characters are pretty well done they have a few quirks here or there but all of them do.
Eisu good as always.
Now that I have that out of the way let me first say Christian derserved what he got. The whole charity was a scam in the first place he never intended to pay his workers to finish it up period. He was just using it to get to Stasia and back into her pants. So no jobs got taken away in fact because of Stasia they DO have jobs.
Parker is infatuted with Stasia to the point that she probably sees herself as Stasia’s Tool weapon and Heretic smitter. When Christian basically spit upon Stasia’s goals and desire to do good well just think Holy avenager mode and you got the idea. Its called a crime of passion and happens all the time all across the world. Humans felt emotions long before we got smart people its a fact. We don’t let go of that root easily.
Guy did the right thing. He saw Parker get attacked and responded with her defence a bit extreme but there you have it. And he probably broke his hand by the way the jaw is a very hard bone in the body hitting hard enough to knock someone out and a tooth is bound to break the bones or at least split the skin. As for the jaw there is something known as a glass jaw which is a bundle of nerves that when hit override the brain and cause it to shutdown. Also hitting his head on the ground could do it as well.
Parker could have killed Christian though the fact he could say anything says she wasn’t even close to doing it. But even if say she used the shirt properly its a cheap mass produced shirt it would have torn apart first. The slap/hit was also out of line Christion could have just reached up and tossed Parker off I would be suprisied if she weighed even 100 lbs wet.
As for the Whole domestic violence nice try pal aint working. A domestic Violence is between a couple or spouses what parker did is ASSUALT that is where someone attacks someone. As for the Whole women like beating up men Pshh its the guys who like it buddy. Nothing is more Erotic then watching a woman kick some serious butt its wood worthy just the thought alone have the sight and sounds in too MMMMMMAHHHHH.
As for the whole Bobby attacking people nahh he only responds to attacks like “you have no talent” “Flat characters” ” “Supporuts Domestic violence” that sort of thing he gets mad and irratated at people twisting thing around that are straight forward concepts. And in that case he has the right to get mad and its only when people continue to attack and lie that he bans people.
And that is about it Bobby thanks for writting Marry me and keep it up.
I agree with almost everything Revanninja said, but this was incorrect:
“The whole charity was a scam in the first place he never intended to pay his workers to finish it up period. He was just using it to get to Stasia and back into her pants. So no jobs got taken away . . .”
No, they were definitely going to get paid if he kept the project going. I’m sure they received at least one paycheck already.
Normally I just sit back an enjoy the ride, with the occasional glimpse into the making of the comic from Bobby or Eisu. However, I feel this needs to be said:
Bobby and Eisu are right. No matter what. They created the comic, put time and energy into it, and maintain the site which we all hover around while waiting for new pages. It doesn’t matter what they say/draw/write, they are the final word on all things Marry Me. If you say anything contrary to them about the comic, you are wrong. Stop arguing and insulting them about their work. If you don’t like it, draw your own comic, and then you can be right about everything.
D: I love your comic’s bobby, even if someone else doesnt.
Contructive criticism is muchly needed. American Idol Simon isn’t needed.
With much love.
And is this story really intended to be realistic?
I like it because it was outo f the ordinary, what pop start would marry some guy in a crowd? From the get-go you can tell this wouldnt be a realistic story. I love the plot line and so do alot of other people, thus why I check every day *though I know you dont update that often XD*
Keep this peice of online bliss going. : D
Am I the only one that would be concerned about the legal repercussions of hitting a celebrity, or is this going to be “What happens in Africa, stays in Africa” ?
Eisu made a great cover for the third WOWIO issue, by the way. Should be up on WOWIO within a few days. We’ll use the cover as a TWC voting incentive eventually, though, so non-Americans can see it (WOWIO is U.S. only).
thng is, Parker isn’t even hurt that bad, she’s got a small bruise which obviously is having a minimal effect on her at best, and while its great Guy is defending his freind you’d think he’d have greater control then that considering his job, in Panels 2 and he looks virtually demonic.
I can’t believe I just read all of the posts. I think Micha was the most helpful in the debate of this violence issue: “What Christian does is the equivalent of me body-slamming a five year old for putting me in a headlock. ”
I just wanted to say from experience of working in Africa and seeing native workers loose their compensation because someone decided to go back on their word and it is heartbreaking. I almost lost it and still try to hold myself back from beating the crap out of the those who took advantage. In my case, they pulled the wages from those they considered “lazy” or they had a “problem with.” It was completely ridiculous since I worked very closely with my workers and I took it personal. I couldn’t understand that if those workers are only getting 200$ a month anyway for working what a normal American would make in a week or some in a day, were they really justified in pulling wages of someone who is physically exhausted after a month of working from 6 am to 3 pm in the hot Saharan sun? Seriously, if I wasn’t technically being graded for my time there (and employed instead), I would have gone completely apeshit on the director that decided to pull the wages. Now I held myself back, but Parker at that point let emotions run over Stasia and what was going on to ultimately control her. What Parker did to Christian is exactly what I want to do every time I visit the town to see my workers and bump into the director. It breaks my heart to know that not only are they being exploited, but they have no choice but to except what they are given (even if they signed up for a higher wage).
Also, we have no idea what kind of relationship Chrisitan and Stasia could have had that prompted Parker to lash out. Could there have been some abuse then? Don’t know, since much of that relationship hasn’t been revealed. If Christian is moron enough to feel that slapping (or backhanding) Parker is a better idea to get her off than just standing up, then I don’t know what Christian could justify as a reasonable idea to hit anyone. If he knew he could breathe for words, why not pull the t-shirt off his neck, it apparently wasn’t on that tight. Being a victim of not only domestic abuse, rape, and physical abuse as a child, I know that it is way harder to fight back against someone you know, then someone you don’t care about at all. I doubt Christian really did have any anxiety over the situation, especially if his arms and legs were not constricted. I could see him in a panic though if he had no use of his arms. My take though. Remember everyone reacts differently, so you may feel that Christian would panic, while Bobby may have built the character to be able to handle this situation, but choose to take the easier road out. I feel though Micha correlating this attack to a headlock though is more appropriate, because I bet that is what it probably was.
I also agree that I would jump in if I saw a friend get hit regardless if what they were doing. Even if they were in the wrong, if I knew they were about to be overpowered I would do anything in my power to get them out of the situation. That’s what Guy did. He punched Christian to get Parker out, and then let Christian be. He was a neutralizer and then condones Parker for the extra violence when Christian is indeed helpless.
I think what we have learned from all of this is that violence doesn’t solve anything. Since no one is going to be content with its results (characters or readers). Now all we have is a knocked out Christian who will probably not grow from any of this (assumption on my part) and a situation that either Stasia will condemn or approve. In all, Guy has to explain his actions and Parker has a bruise on her cheek. I think the only people probably happy are the workers who witnessed the guy that signed their crappy paychecks and pulled their jobs get a rope burn and punched in the face.
I do have to say, this does fit a cultural stigma though, and I agree with whoever was fighting this point. What I don’t agree with is that it is necessarily that bad or lazy of the author to use it. A guy acts as the champion or his best friend and his wife’s morals as well as defending his own pride is something deeply rooted in out culture. Problem is, us fans are looking for holes to shoot through, whether it be what we think is factual or culturally defined only for controversy. I don’t think Bobby is trying to make some feminist statement, or antifeminist , or some strange statement on culture. I think he is basically taking Western culture and twisitng it. Come on, who doesn’t have that one psycho friend who would sacrifice themselves for some idol of theirs because they are really hiding an emotion and a deep void within their own life? How about that one non-douche friend that never seems to be able to get a date but always overlooked? What about that friend who doesn’t realize their own self worth because they are so used to having people define who they are? They may be considered “cliche” by some, but we recognize them because they exist. It is harder to make a reader face the reality in characters then it is to give them completely foreign aspects.
I don’t know, but I really enjoy the story line, I like seeing how the characters react, I can suspend my disbelief for this comic over things I might not agree with, and I know I personally hate waiting for updates but treasure them when they come.
I think people should stop attacking in such a: I know more than you tone and really add in constructive criticisms. I really don’t see anyone backing up anything and really just repeating what has already been said. Maybe someone (or I if I had time), to make a FAQ section over all the stupid arguments the boards have had. Thereby all Bobby has to say is, refer to FAQ.
Anyway, great comic. My time on the soap box is over.
I really enjoy this comic. I check it daily, sometimes more. And I’m very attached to the characters. But am I the only one who thinks these people are waay over reacting to a work of fiction? I mean jesus christ. I thought the Comment section was for constructive critisism and compliments, not a fuckig overview of Spanish archdukes (yes, I read it, I thought there might be a point in there somewhere. There wasn’t). And as much as I enjoy reading his rants, maybe if Bobby didn’t have to spend so much time answering the petty whining of, um, yeah, -morons-, he’d be working on the comic, yeah? Had to say something, even if its already been said. Keep up the good work guys.
I have been a fan of this comic and last blood for a very long time and I have to say nice work with the story so far as it will be very interesting to see how this incident plays over with Staisia.
Also, a final note to those posting comments for everyone’s sake.
Stop attacking the author, this is a story..a FICTIONAL story that is in no way designed to put ideas in people’s heads as to how they should act in normal life. The majority of the “hate” I have read in the comments is due to people projecting their own assumptions and (horrible?) personal experiences into a given situation; with a case in point being Violence Rules’ comment.
Just stop, take a step back and put your head into the story before you leave a flaming letter so it focuses on the central reason this comment board exists…to improve the story through CONSTRUCTIVE feedback.
I think this is the first time I am commenting on a webcomic. YAY!
I just want to say that the arguments found here are amusing.
Honestly, arguments are great to view, not because of the discord but because it is really interesting to see the many different opinions/discussions/interpretations people can have on and of just one subject.
Just remember not to take it personal or let it irk you.
Now my opinion on some of the arguments that I have read are as follows:
1.) THIS IS A COMIC and in comics it is not unusual to see females going bonkers on males. The ENTERTAINMENT is the clue, the humor, and the purpose. The argument seems to be whether the scene was moral. Violence is overall immoral yet utopian existence is far from becoming actualized so… let us all enjoy the comic…please.
2.) Referring to En and his comments,
En, if you want to truly give constructive criticism, I doubt starting with “This comic just gets worse and worse every time I come back to it. I do come back every once in a while for the art, but the writing is horrible…” helps your purpose.
Yea….just wanted to say that….keep up the great work everybobby!
Over all the comic is nice done i enjoy the writing and art. they are in africa i doubt the local government gives a crap what two grown men from another land decide to do to one another they have bigger prolems to worry about then a simple fist fight.
1. Kara Says:
February 4th, 2008 at 9:30 am
“I can’t believe I just read all of the posts. I think Micha was the most helpful in the debate of this violence issue: “What Christian does is the equivalent of me body-slamming a five year old for putting me in a headlock. â€â€
Thanks for taking note, I’m glad the analogy wasn’t completely lost on everyone. Oh, and it’s Micah by the way (don’t worry, happens all the time)
“Come on, who doesn’t have that one psycho friend who would sacrifice themselves for some idol of theirs because they are really hiding an emotion and a deep void within their own life?â€
You just described my best friend, who no doubt would have proposed to one of the Spice Girls by now if he wasn’t gay. Well, not sure about the deep void part, but he is a fanatic…
Wow. Someone gets punched in a comic strip and look at the fallout. If I can’t get the satisfaction in real life, let me at least indulge in some in comic form. Many people want to see a smug snake getting what’s coming to him. I know we can’t see enough of that in real life.
“Now, now Theodore. Violence isn’t the answer.”
“You are correct. Violence is the question. The answer is YES!!”
- Fred Perry’s “Gold Digger” (Antartic Press)
I’m not sure if this has been asked before, or if its been mentioned and I just missed it, so feel free to tell me so. I know that you are planning on this being a movie eventually, and I was curious if it was going to be an animation or a live action movie. I really love the story and Eisu’s art, and hope to see it on the big screen!
you know I gotta say, any one who complains at bobby for not updating often enough has sorely over looked his comments… I’ve never seen an author spend so much energy on not only his art but his “Public”.
Can’t wait to see the movie! Or Audition!
…….. Okay, I’m a little on the short side for Guy, but nothing movie magic couldn’t do to make me look taller.
Oh, and about this violence-debate: It’s really stupid. Both sides are stupid. If one side would have been non-stupid, it would have been Bobby Crosby, but a debate that’s based on a false assumption is always stupid.
Example of what I mean: Sometimes when I’m at the library I wonder “Should I choose this book or that one?” I always eventually realise that I’m acting stupid, because I could just choose both of them. Ergo: I’m basing my dilemma on the false assumption that I can only choose one book. This debate is based on the false assumption that everything the protagonists do in a story must be The Right Thing To Doâ„¢, but it really doesn’t. Unless Jesus Christ is the main character, you don’t have to demand perfect morals in every way. (And I DON’T want a religious debate starting up now, OK? I only chose Jesus because everyone knows he’s generally regarded as a nice person.)
Sorry for speaking in such a bureaucratic style, but English isn’t my native language; I learned it through reading Charles Dickens and Arthur Conan Doyle. That produces quite a strange effect on the speech.
I love internet. there are always morons that exists in comments fields of comics, blogs etc. and who exists only to piss others off. Seriously, I love you guys. You are so frickin’ stupid, it’s fun to read what you’ve written and laugh heartily at your stupid little words. You must all live terrible, TERRIBLE lives if you believe that the only good in the world is to terrorize Bob, Eisu and the readers that actually knows how to appreciate a good piece of art with a shipload filled with nonsense, lies, accusations, insults and -above all- a belief that you are right and those who actually have CREATED the storyline and the characters and making the whole thing free for internet readers (THANK YOU!<3) are the “bad guys”.
LOL.
Get a grip of yourselves, stop harassing Bob for being a greater writer than you ever will be, and live the rest of your lives happily ever after. Fucktards.
I find the comments about this comic’s promoting domestic violence in order to appeal to women (WTF) completely insane. Where in the world do women flock to the cinema in order to see domestic violence? I can see it now: “Honey, the girls and I are going to see The Burning Bed. Apparently, Farrah Fawcet gets her ass beaten, and then lights her man on fire after dousing him with gasoline.”
“Sounds like a real chick-flick, babe. You ladies enjoy yourself.”
If anything, the comic promotes solid entertainment, as everyone and his mother enjoys watching a jerk get his comeuppance, coupled with a “POW” sound effect for good measure.
Okay, after reading most of what was said, I have to say… I’m not sure why everyone is getting so hateful and critical. Since when do character’s actions have to be morally justified, or be making a statement about the author’s/writer’s personal feelings? It’s not like the things real people do are justified even a fourth of the time and yet we shrug and let it slide all the time.
Personally, I love that Guy has such impulsive moments. He’d be BORING as hell if he didn’t have human reactions to things. I challenge anyone to think of the person who is most important to them… then imagine them getting punched. Would you fucking care if it was JUSTIFIED?
I also seriously doubt Christian’s life was in danger. Parker probably weighs… 120 pounds soaking wet. Maybe less. I’m a girl and that sort of weight couldn’t pin me. You’ll also notice that Christian’s hand was wrapped around the shirt keeping it away from his throat. If he’s capable of yelling for help, then rolling around and smacking Parker, his life was in no eminent danger.
It does not matter if she could or couldn’t hunt or kill him she is physical attacking him. He has every right to stop her. I hope he hit her so hard it knocked some since into her.
He is the boss he has every right to fire people. He has every right to choose to not care about peoples name. He didn’t even verbaly assult them.
He, while walking away was attacked. I don’t want some crazy bitch jumping on my back and then when i knocked her off. (how ever i choose to do it) Someone to come up and punch me. I think parker and guy need some jail time.
Attacking someone is wrong. putting your hands in anger on another human is wrong. Violence begets Violence. You hit me, i hit you harder. You hit me with and object, i hit you with a bigger object… you kill me my brother kills you… In a civiliased socitey we put the punishment into the hands of the LAW.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
great job, i love the last panel.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
PWNED
January 28th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
DRAT!
If my stupi internet had been wokring, I would have posted first!
BUT ANYWAY
Panel 3 = The Best Panel to have ever been made
But with coloring
it will rule the world!
January 28th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
The only thing that would complete this picture would be a first generation batman style “BAM, POW, WHAM!” or something like that.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Got to love the Not the face line. He so deserved the face punch and lost tooth . Yay for Guy!
January 28th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
“The only thing that would complete this picture would be a first generation batman style ‘BAM, POW, WHAM!’ or something like that.”
That was in the script and will be in the color version. A “POW!” will go right under Guy’s fist.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
not the face… LOL. I haven’t seen that line used in a while, always makes me laugh hysterically.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
“Not the face!”
LOL, PWNED!
January 28th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
hahaha
Yay Guy! Lol @ Parker…
January 28th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Sweet! I was hoping he’d do it but I didn’t think he would. I am SO happy now ^_^!
January 28th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
I love Guy’s expression in panel 2. Great work guys, keep it up.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Panels 2 and 3 practically scream “FALCON PUNCH!”
Guy is awesome.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
OHMYGOD.
I usually -never- -ever- comment, but this page… I almost cried tears of joy. It’s so great. Can’t wait to see the color version.
…
And Stacia’s reaction, of course.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Gee, it sure would be a darn shame if that missing tooth hurt Christian’s career and all. ^^
January 28th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Holy frickin’ cow! One punch, something tells me Guy has a background in amatuer boxing. Christian deserved it though, and now Staisia knows she has a man that can protect her if need be.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Wow. Go, GUY!
LOL at Parker wanting to finish him off.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
iZaz, cabron!
January 28th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Something tells me Stasia might misunderstand this situation. >_> Drama will ensue.
January 28th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
-agrees with Derosian-
but drama is interesting O=
January 29th, 2008 at 10:38 am
YAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!! Guy did hit that creeper! Ah, best moment of the comic so far. ^_^
Also, i’m sure Stasia will understand! Guy was just protecting his best (and only?) friend from a creep who hit her! plus, i’m sure she wanted to it just as much as him…
January 29th, 2008 at 11:12 am
I didn’t think it possible, but I just fell more in love with Guy right there. Protecting his best friend from a downright ass slapping her? Helping Stasia (even if she’s a star) from all the marriage business? Reading himself to sleep so he could learn more from her? Going to the concert with Parker even though he didn’t like Stasia’s music to begin with? Counselor at school for all problematic and non-problematic children? A HOT GEEK TO BOOT?!
Quite the character you’ve created, Bobby and Eisu. Quite the character.
And now, I was thinking: if I ever see this as a movie, I will buy a poster with the actor who portrays Guy to squee over every morning. I just love a character like that! *swoon*
Also: I am not an U.S. resident so I can’t support you through WOWIO. Is it any other way for me to help or is the only other way ordering one of the books? Thanks in advance for any response.
January 29th, 2008 at 11:17 am
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Christian is kick ass!
January 29th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Pfft. Christian will just get rich selling ironic T-shirts (”I got my a$$ kicked by Stasia’s Maybe-Husband!”) through faux indie shops (I’m looking at you, Hot Topic) and then ghost-write a scandalous tell-all “unauthorized” bio of Guy wherein he implies that the entire incident was a homophobic hate-crime against him.
Whoops! Uh, spoilers. (j/k)
January 29th, 2008 at 11:39 am
“FALCON….PAAAUUUUUUUNNCHH!!!!!!!”
Heck yes! Go Guy!
January 29th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Fucking fantastic job, you two. Seriously.
January 29th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Weee!! that was a quick update, I’d say. I love Guy more than ever!
January 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
“Oh crap, the big one”
I really loved this line. The last panel was also awesome
January 29th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
YEAH-YUH!!! YOU GO, GUY!!!
January 29th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
I’ve gotta say, I love a good romantic comedy…
This page is full of awesome and win… More awesome than your comic’s character AFP.
January 29th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
pretty awesome hope that stasia doesnt kick guys ass to much for that but the creep totally deserved it for hitting a girl
January 29th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Must say that i feel sorry for Chris. He got look and money but very little else. I think he is truly most honest person in this comic (mostly because he doesn’t have enough brain to being dishonest).
On page 55, he said been changed, but it is more like game. He got attention span like little kid. He will just abandon his charity center like dull toy, because Stasia like playing more with Guy.
Chris is more fun while living. And with missing tooth Chris surely look like big idiot.
January 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Violence is great! I say, every bogus melvin should have a hot chick knock him to the mud if he stops doing what he said he was doing! Damn straight! And if that bogus melvin gets out of line with the hot chick that knocks him down, then I say Captain Mary-Sue should bust his head like a melon! By God, Violence Rules! I wish I could take down legions and squadroons of bogus dudes, but you know, they keep finding ways and times to hit back. I mean, bogus!
January 29th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
The paparazzi must be kicking themselves to have missed such a perfect story.
For some reason (at least in the uncolored version), Christian in panel 3 reminds me of the Joker (from Batman). Probably how his hair frames his eyes and looks like eye makeup.
Anyhow, it’s dental implant time for Christian. They’ve gotten much better these days.
Now I’m curious how Stasia (and her sister) will react…
January 29th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
*as Bart Simpson* THAT’S THE STUFF, PSYCHO!!! *reverently* And so it begins!!!!!
*shrieks* YES!!!!!!!! *does happy dance*
Michael Buffer: *all disappointed* That Rumble didn’t last for even five seconds…*sigh* Now I have to wait until next years WWE Royal Rumble…*shuffles off*
January 29th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Panel 3= “SHORIYUKEN!!!!”
This is an awesome update. Thanks for not making us wait to see “what happens next” from last page.
January 29th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Christian has very nice fingernails.
(Based on Panel 2, at least.)
January 29th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Great. I really can’t wait to see this colored.. especially the top right panel of Guy charging forward.
January 29th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
“I didn’t think it possible, but I just fell more in love with Guy right there. Protecting his best friend from a downright ass slapping her? Helping Stasia (even if she’s a star) from all the marriage business? Reading himself to sleep so he could learn more from her? Going to the concert with Parker even though he didn’t like Stasia’s music to begin with? Counselor at school for all problematic and non-problematic children? A HOT GEEK TO BOOT?!
Quite the character you’ve created, Bobby and Eisu. Quite the character.
And now, I was thinking: if I ever see this as a movie, I will buy a poster with the actor who portrays Guy to squee over every morning. I just love a character like that! *swoon*”
amen, my sister. a-men. guy is the ultimate prince charming, and I hope S will see that.
January 29th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
“Panels 2 and 3 practically scream “FALCON PUNCH!â€
Guy is awesome.”
Haha think you can make a version of that, just for kicks? If it’s not any trouble that is.
Favorite page so far
January 29th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
“He’s not dead”
“Darn. Maybe one well-placed kick…”
The BEST response, gotta love Parker. Christian’s so lucky that Guy was there.
Props, Bobby and Eisu
January 29th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
DAMN! like….everyone beat me to the “falcon Punch” joke! DAMN!
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e206/KlunArt/misc/falconpunch.jpg
January 29th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
I love this page. I hate males(I say that cuz they aren’t true men) who are willing to hit women.
January 29th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
I only have two words to say (other than FALCON PUNCH!) and that is Hot Damn. Awesome page.
January 29th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
I’ve been reading this comic ever since I saw the link on No Pink Ponies and I LOVE IT!!! I don’t know why I hadn’t commented in that long, but whatever. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I love the comic and especially this page. This side of Guy is one of the best yet. Not to say his other qualities aren’t great, but I love guys that stand up for the people they care about. Bobby and Eisu, many gold stars to you!! (Really, who needs Oscars and Grammys when you can have gold stars?) ^_^ Keep up the wonderful work!
January 29th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
I love it. I love it so much. You have no idea.
This is my favorite thus far. Yea Guy! Wooo!
January 29th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
A quote from Nacho Libre, if you know the context then it’s very funny.
“A punch to the faaace”
January 30th, 2008 at 12:00 am
“Oh crap, the big oneâ€
Panel one says it all.
It almost made my heart fly out of my chest at Guy’s loyalty.
Almost like “Mess with the chick, and get a little of this!” BAM!
Aha I love his terrified look, that and the way Guy can hold his own.
Doesn’t seem like the kind of councillor I’d know…
We need more councillors like him in the world.
January 30th, 2008 at 4:21 am
Head shot!
Looks like he lost a tooth as well, but hey he had it coming!
January 30th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Kate, I hope you don’t mind, but I now have that falcon punch image as my book cover!
January 30th, 2008 at 11:31 am
One hit?! One hit and he goes down?! Freakin’ wuss…
Well, that was one hell of a punch. Go Guy!
January 30th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Yeah! Hit him again!
January 30th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
YES! Chivalry for the win!
January 30th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
WOOOOO GO GUY!!! Sucker punches FTW!
January 30th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
LEFT HOOK’D!
January 30th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Flawless Victory!
January 30th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
That was great… but i can’t help but think of what will happen to the budding relationship because of it.
January 30th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
*gape* Dude…
IT ROCKS EVEN MORE WITH COLOR!!! LOL
I’m STILL doin a happy dance at this page, seriously!!
January 30th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
“not the face” as opposed to what below the belt?
January 30th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
haha, falcon punch indeed.
Jerkface got what was coming to him.
January 30th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
I wonder how many times Guy has hit a random guy unconscious just because that Parker girl has attacked the dude beforehand (for no good reason). Never knew Guy would be the violent type.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I’m gonna vector-graphic the 3rd panel and make it to my wallpaper
It’s the best panel in human history
January 31st, 2008 at 1:22 am
Like we didn’t see that coming. It’s like knowing in advance about a huge party you’re throwing and everything is going to be perfect. You look foreward to it, it happens without a hitch; such sweetness.
Now let’s work on daddy!
January 31st, 2008 at 1:32 am
has hit a random guy unconscious just because that Parker girl has attacked the dude beforehand (for no good reason).
It’s not “for no good reason”, the guy was a jerk who laid off workers who was building a charity building and could care less about it after Stasia have asked the guy to reconsider and not do something like that… I think she had a pretty good reason to jump him as well.
January 31st, 2008 at 2:47 am
Just a thought. =. Chris seem very weak (physically and mentally), so he may been sheltered all his live. Does he have some health problem?
If so. Stasia may don’t like Guy’s violent outburst. :/
January 31st, 2008 at 3:15 am
Alex B. writes: he had it coming!
Oh, great. I have Chicago’s Cell Block Tango in my head now. It’s rather appropriate music, though. (=
He had it coming
He had it coming
He only had himself to blame
If you’d have been there
If you’d have seen it
I betcha you would
Have done the same!
January 31st, 2008 at 3:16 am
This is without a question this webcomic’s best page yet. And that’s saying something
January 31st, 2008 at 4:16 am
On this occasion I have to agree with the blonde guy. Yes this is a social taboo against hitting women but Parker was attacking him and he slapped hwr in self defense to get her off of him and I think in that case his actions were justified. If Parker doesn’t want to get slapped she shouldn’t attack people. Women its a too way street now, if you are allowed to defend yourself from men who attack you men should be able to defend themselves from women who defend them
January 31st, 2008 at 5:28 am
First time I’ve commented, but I just want to say. Yes, Christian is a jerk. Yes, anyone else would have done the same thing in the moment. No, I don’t think he deserved to be FALCON PAUNCHED Like that. For all of his jerkness he was just walking along when Parker attacked him and all that happened. In the real world I would side with Christian.
But this is a comic, and it does feel oddly satisfying seeing him out cold and missing a tooth. Good job all around.
January 31st, 2008 at 6:51 am
Grth has a point there, though it doesn’t fit the ‘mood’ most are posting about this particular scene; Christian was defending himself – Parker was on top of him semi-strangling him with his scarf. Slapping her may have been a little over-the-top (he was bigger than her and could have just shaken her off), and Guy’s reaction seemed a little impulsive, seeing his best friend hit.
This scene is definitely a good opening for a little drama between Stasia and Guy, should Stasia interpret this as inappropriate actions on the part of Guy and Parker toward Christian, who *is* a friend/acquaintance of hers she’s known MUCH LONGER than her JUST-FORMED relationship(s) with Guy & parker.
Sorry to rain on this ‘he’s pwned’ parade… but there’s still a little reality checking to be made here.
All in all, this is a wonderful story, and I look forward to see where this goes from here.
January 31st, 2008 at 7:23 am
I’m with Danek, I can see why Guy hit Christian (and honestly, I think that there are some self centered ego maniacle people who deserve to be hit) but I don’t think this is insta-pwned.
Being as we were all kind of standing there, watching what happened, I don’t know if I’d be more… stunned that this otherwise very level headed man just one hit KOed a star or if I’d snicker behind Christian’s back at the absurdity that he went down in one hit at all…
I don’t feel the righteous fury of Guy hitting Christian, like, it just didn’t ring with me. I know why he did it – and I know that if it were me, and my best friend, Justin would have done the same. But I don’t know that I would auto-swoon if I were Stacia, is all.
She’s the only person, for me, that I can’t very well guess what she might do. Parker is always going to be crazy, Guy is always going to be Loyal, and Christian’s always going to be a raging dumb #*%&.
As a counter point though for Stacia and Christian – I don’t think they were ever friends. I think they dated, but I don’t think they ever liked each other, let alone loved. I think the emotions Stacia felt at the beginning of the comic, were more along the ropes of being fired from a job you hate. You’re glad to be gone, but it would have been nice to be the one to do the dumping.
I can’t wait to see where this leads!
January 31st, 2008 at 7:33 am
This comic just gets worse and worse every time I come back to it. I do come back every once in a while for the art, but the writing is horrible.
Wow. Parker takes it upon herself to mete out justice to Christian, so Christian deserves to get punched in the face by Guy? None of this is realistic in any way- that Parker would get openly violent in a situation that she barely knows about, Guy the good student counselor resorts to punching immediately (wonder what he tells his students?)…
I don’t have a problem with you writing a character that would hit a girl, even though a man hitting a woman IRL is wrong (yes, Grth, clearly Parker deserved to get hit by a man much bigger and heavier than her. No strength difference there at all /sarcasm>). What I have a problem with is the characters being consistently one-dimensional. It’s no fun to read.
And please save your breath with “but it’s just a romantic comedy! you’re not supposed to take it so seriously!” If you and Eisu invest time writing and drawing a comic, my assumption is that you want people to take it seriously, not just write comments about duuuuude cool violence!!1
I don’t really think that you’ll let this go through, since you’ve erased and blocked people who have have problems with your comic before, but at least you’ll read this before you mod it out. Congratulations on having a uniformly congratulatory comments page. It means you’ve alienated everyone who would have given you any kind of critisicm, constructive or otherwise.
January 31st, 2008 at 8:26 am
Hey! I adore the comic! It’s awesome! I can’t wait to see what happens next. Keep up the good work
January 31st, 2008 at 8:40 am
Coyotelovely, DanekJovax, a bit of advice?
Stop overanalyzing it and enjoy the senseless violence.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:55 am
Holy crap! What a punch! Heh, Parker just kills me, she’s hilarious. We can only wish that jerk was dead… jeez…
January 31st, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Can’t wait for another update! Gotta be patient though. Thanks for the wonderful story and artwork.
On a side note, I remember reading that this story was only supposed to go about 80 pages. To me, the devlopment seems only halfway, two thirds at the most. I think finishing the story in just 20 pages would probably rush it a bit. Please don’t feel bound to finishing at 80 at the expense of the story!
Of course, I’m not the one writing
, so do as you wish
January 31st, 2008 at 1:13 pm
“I don’t really think that you’ll let this go through, since you’ve erased and blocked people who have have problems with your comic before”
This is obviously a 100% lie. The only reasons I’ve ever banned people is for LYING (like you just did, but I’m not even banning you yet) and for wasting everyone’s time by criticizing ME PERSONALLY INSTEAD OF THE COMIC (like you also just did!).
“Congratulations on having a uniformly congratulatory comments page. It means you’ve alienated everyone who would have given you any kind of critisicm, constructive or otherwise.”
You’ve obviously either been banned previously or know someone who has and you’re extremely bitter about it. THE COMMENTS FOR “MARRY ME” INCLUDE MORE CRITICISM THAN ANY OTHER COMMENTS PAGE OR FORUMS FOR ANY OTHER COMIC IN HISTORY WITH A SIMILAR SIZED AUDIENCE, OTHER THAN MAYBE “LAST BLOOD,” ANOTHER COMIC OF MINE. That is a fact. Try to somehow disprove it. I allow everyone to say whatever they want as long as they’re not flat out lying or just bashing me personally, and I allow some people, like you just now, to even do both of those things for a while until it gets too disgusting and they need to get banned. Almost every other comic writer would delete 90% of the bad comments that I allow to go through. I’ve said this so many times before, so annoying.
None of your complaints made any sense whatsoever. What’s unrealistic about a psycho crazed fan (Parker) attacking a guy who just seriously pissed off the girl she loves, belittled herself and her friend by referring to them as the little one and the big one and assuming that the only reason Stasia would know them is if their dying wish was to meet her, ended his charity and fired all those people, and obviously has a history with Stasia that she knows about and knows how it ended badly before already? She also hated the horrible movie he just starred in, which is reason enough to kill him! And how could it possibly be unrealistic for a guy to defend his best friend who was just punched by someone twice her size???
“What I have a problem with is the characters being consistently one-dimensional.”
Uh, your main complaint about the comic was that the characters, in your opinion, WEREN’T one-dimensional, but you thought their “second” dimension, being capable of violence, was unrealistic. If Guy was one-dimensional, he’d never stop reading and being boring and he certainly wouldn’t falcon punch a movie star.
January 31st, 2008 at 1:19 pm
En:
You are a decent person but you just don’t get it. “Marry Me” is not really a graphic novel or even a story in the usual sense; instead, ‘Marry Me’ is a commercial venture, a cruise missile aimed at the hormones of American women as a shortcut to their pocketbooks. If women think they have a right to knock men down, then a writer can make money by heroizing women who knock men down; if women think that they should have big blonde boyfriends to beat the teeth of out of men who don’t like being knocked down, then a writer can make money by inventing such big blonde boyfriends, whether the characters or the story make sense or not. The point is to make money by offering women exactly what they want. If American women wake up one morning and decide they like men who paint their toenails, you can bet that Guy will start painting his toenails the next day; and you can bet this board will be full of messages from women begging for the chance to buy posters of Guy painting his toenails. Instead of complaining, En, you should give credit where credit is due, because that’s the way business works.
January 31st, 2008 at 1:32 pm
By the way, Violence Rules is clearly a huge hater of me and this comic, but I’ve allowed all his comments to go through. I assume I’ve banned him previously, though. Maybe he’s En also.
January 31st, 2008 at 1:56 pm
In my opinion, Christian was somewhat justified, in backhanding Parker. Just because she’s smaller doesn’t remove her ability to kill him, especially with the help of the shirt to strangle him. It’s quite possible that he was reacting through instinct. I mean seriously, if someone you don’t really know is strangling you, you don’t think of the correct way to get them off, you go with the first thing that comes to mind to get them off, because you would be panicking. You would not be debating about if it was justified, or how it goes against chivalry, you’d be more worried about keeping your life. Given…he is still a jerk to begin with.
No, Guy’s punch isn’t fully justified either, but people are not rational, and given the right situation, they will respond with emotions rather than thinking about how fair it is. And that’s what happened here. Guy’s love (friendship) for Parker and wanting her not to be hurt outweighed the rational thoughts of justification.
Anyway, I laughed, and indeed it is a Falcon Punch.
January 31st, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Bobby Crosby says:
>>By the way, Violence Rules is clearly a huge hater of me and this comic, but I’ve allowed all his comments to go through. I assume I’ve banned him previously, though. Maybe he’s En also.<<
Violence Rules replies:
Bobby, I have posted exactly two messages on this board since the day I was born, and both of them are on the board right now; and I promise you this is the only screen name I have ever used here. If you really imagine that I am En or that I could be En, then your intuition for personality and writing styles is pretty weak. All I am is a man who grew up under the fists of a battering stepmother and who married a battering wife, and the only thing I hate here is the dogma which says that women can attack men because women are ’smaller.’
Bobby, I know you need to make a living and I respect that; but I really feel like some truth needs to be said here. Violence is violence even if a ’smaller’ and ’sensitive’ woman is the one who starts it; and if your female readers think that ’smaller’ and ‘more sensitive’ people should have a license to attack ‘larger’ and ‘less sensitive’ people, then why not ask those same women how much they would like being hit and knocked down by their sons and daughters. Should your children stand on a scale every year on their birthdays to see if they are smaller than their mothers or not? And, should your children have a license to inflict domestic violence on their mothers until they stop being smaller than their mothers? Does being ‘bigger’ mean you have no right to the dignity of your own body?
January 31st, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Violence Rules: You’re reading WAY too much into this and you’re misunderstanding me if you think I’m somehow saying what you apparently think I’m saying. I agree with you completely — please tell me where I’ve said otherwise or where the comic has in any way said otherwise.
PARKER ATTACKED CHRISTIAN, CHRISTIAN PUNCHED HER, GUY DEFENDED HIS FRIEND, NO MATTER WHO WAS RIGHT OR WRONG, BECAUSE SHE’S HIS FRIEND AND CHRISTIAN’S AN ASSHOLE AND CHRISTIAN IS TWICE HER SIZE AND IF THERE’S GOING TO BE A FIGHT HE’S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HELP PARKER OUT.
Please tell me how that promotes anything about how women should be allowed to beat men. It doesn’t in ANY CONCEIVABLE WAY to anyone with a brain.
Also, Parker did far less damage to Christian than Christian did to her. He punched her in the face. She pushed him down and basically rubbed his neck with a shirt and he was never in any danger whatsoever. If Guy pushed him down and tried to choke him, he’d possibly succeed and kill him, but Parker was way too small/weak to do any damage that way. Christian can shrug her off like a bug.
January 31st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Doesn’t change the fact that even when someone you don’t know starts to strangle you, you don’t respond kindly, even if they are smaller then you and of the opposite gender.
“Also, Parker did far less damage to Christian than Christian did to her. He punched her in the face. She pushed him down and basically rubbed his neck with a shirt and he was never in any danger whatsoever.”
The shirt could do plenty of damage, and if it went on, could actually choke someone, all it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull. If he doesn’t respond in some sort of way, he could have ended up dying, or most likely passing out. But the mind never thinks rationally when in a panic.
I agree with everything but the twice her size statement. With the use of tools, size doesn’t matter, and this case, the shirt was a tool.
January 31st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
“The shirt could do plenty of damage, and if it went on, could actually choke someone, all it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull.”
Totally wrong. All he has to do is spin around and throw her off him and then untie the shirt himself.
“With the use of tools, size doesn’t matter, and this case, the shirt was a tool.”
The shirt was a SHIRT, not a GUN, and she’d need a gun or a knife or some tool like that to kill someone twice her size. You’re somehow not realizing that he can just stand up and toss her aside. His arms and legs are completely free — that’s how he was able to punch her, remember? She was sitting on his back, but she’s not nearly heavy enough or strong enough for that to keep him down.
January 31st, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Sorry for kicking in when the discussion has moved to entirely different topics, but anyway:
Actually I found it refreshing not to see any Wham! Blam! Punch! stuff. To me, such punchlines (pardon the pun) are just stating the obvious.
Re the violence discussion: I think Parker simply never managed to hurt anybody, so attacking somebody physically is no big deal for her.
She must be used to being slapped though, otherwise she wouldn’t have been able to shrug that slap off so easily.
For the benefit of doubt, I’ll accept Violence’s explanation that he’s subject to female violence.
However, that doesn’t make the comic bad. Any art will, for some individuals, trigger bad memories. Either you deal with the memories or you go look at something else, but it’s *not the fault of the artist*.
January 31st, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Oh SIGH. I’ve made this comment before, but the board ate it.
Parker could NOT strangle Christian like that. You can’t cut off someone’s air with an open loop, not unless you actually put your knee in his neck and then pull with all your might.
If you want to strangle someone you use a closed loop. Christian was in danger of having a few fabric burns on his neck, nothing more. Which is born out by the fact that he was shouting and calling for help. Not exactly sounds someone makes whose air supply has been cut off.
January 31st, 2008 at 6:35 pm
“This comic just gets worse and worse every time I come back to it. I do come back every once in a while for the art, but the writing is horrible.”
Frankly, that’s silly.
You know how Google works, right? Well, if you search on “Eisu” and “artist” you get over 4500 hits, one of which is Eisu’s DeviantArt page. IOW, Eisu’s artwork is all over the ‘Net; there is no reason to come to a webcomic you despise just to see it.
And even if you did have to come here, you could always, y’know, look at the pictures and NOT READ THE DIALOGUE.
January 31st, 2008 at 6:53 pm
How AWESOME is it that we get such an “early” update? It was great, as it contributed to the “flow” of the story, made it more violent if you get what I mean. Which you probably don’t, since I sucked at explaining myself.
Whatever.
I understand what’s being said about Parker. But she IS a bit crazy, and that’s precisely why we like her. and Guy being so protective is kind of nice, he is not consciously choosing violence, but reacting to seeing his friend in danger.
I am still very much in love with this cute geek.
and with Marry Me, of course.
January 31st, 2008 at 7:00 pm
“If you want to strangle someone you use a closed loop. Christian was in danger of having a few fabric burns on his neck, nothing more. Which is born out by the fact that he was shouting and calling for help. Not exactly sounds someone makes whose air supply has been cut off.”
This is what I said and I quote “All it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull.” Sounds to me like closing the loop.
“The shirt was a SHIRT, not a GUN, and she’d need a gun or a knife or some tool like that to kill someone twice her size.”
And I don’t think the shirt was being used as a shirt at the time, so that would make it a tool for another purpose that it wasn’t meant for. Sorry for not clarifying, but what I meant by “if it went on” was, if it were to go on, without Christian fighting back, Parker could have formed the loop and started to strangle him. Had it gone on longer, Christian might have done something worse than what he did.
Anyways, what I’m trying to get at is that Christian is being strangled, by someone he barely knows and has no right to attack him in the first place. When he is being strangled, he doesn’t pay attention to the size of the person, or how tight it is against his neck, first thing he’ll notice is that there is something pulling against his neck. Now, I don’t know about you, but in that case, I wouldn’t take kindly to someone trying to strangle me out of the blue, and probably, I’d be panicking at the time to get them off. So Christian, panicking and acting out in instinct, gets her off of him by “back-handing” her. No, he did not punch her, his hand is clearly open.
Even though she is small, she still has the ability to kill him. I’m not saying he was justified in his attack of her, but being panicked and probably angry from being attacked in the first place for no reason, he might be more inclined not care about her safety over his.
Sorry for dragging this argument/debate on. I still love this comic for what it is, it’s just the way your saying “She’s smaller” it’s like saying Christian doesn’t have the right to respond in turn for her actions. Anyway, good luck.
January 31st, 2008 at 8:19 pm
“This is what I said and I quote ‘All it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull.’ Sounds to me like closing the loop.”
But did you miss the part where Parker never did that???
“Sorry for not clarifying, but what I meant by ‘if it went on’ was, if it were to go on, without Christian fighting back, Parker could have formed the loop and started to strangle him.”
Very confused. Why would any possible scenario matter involving Christian not fighting back? Obviously he’s not going to let her murder him (and she wouldn’t actually kill him anyway), but, as I’ve said a million times, there was no need to punch her in the face when he could have just plain STOOD UP and shook her off, or at worst he could just push her off him. He didn’t need to punch her. OBVIOUSLY everyone agrees that he shouldn’t have let her KILL HIM, JEEZ.
“Anyways, what I’m trying to get at is that Christian is being strangled, by someone he barely knows and has no right to attack him in the first place.”
That’s your opinion that she has no right to attack him — I think she has every right in the world to do so and that a lot more pieces of shit like him should be attacked.
“No, he did not punch her, his hand is clearly open.”
My intention was for it to be a closed fist punch. The final art made it look more like a slap, but who gives a shit — it’s a back handed hit where his knuckles make contact with her face and resulted in a bruise on her cheek, as you can see some of on Panel 5 of this page. That’s a punch to me and it’s incredibly stupid for you to argue that point and try to correct me about what happened in the comic that I wrote. It’s also posible that the contact with her face made his fist open up. We’re only seeing his hand AFTER making contact, not before or during contact.
“Even though she is small, she still has the ability to kill him.”
Stop repeating the same nonsense. She clearly does not have the ability to kill him or even cause any significant injury to him in the manner that she’s attempting it. Again, if she had a gun or a knife, she could kill him. Definitely can’t do it with that shirt unless she drugged him first or gained 300 pounds (but even then she probably couldn’t kill him unless one or both of his arms were also tied behind his back or trapped under her bulk in some way). This nonsense reminds me of people actually saying that Parker was guilty of ATTEMPTED RAPE for what she said on Page 36. Such insane stupidity.
“I’m not saying he was justified in his attack of her, but being panicked and probably angry from being attacked in the first place for no reason”
Again, it’s your opinion that he was attacked for no reason and I think it’s a very stupid opinion. I think she has about 10 great reasons to attack him, the most important one being how heartless he just was in regards to the livelihoods of dozens of Kenyans, people who grow up with a life expectancy in the 40s, with further implications that will deny much needed help to thousands more Kenyans. He fires these workers, shortly after hiring them, by no fault of their own, and he ends a charity that could have done a lot of good. Stasia’s super rich, but not even Oprah can fix the lives of everyone in the world, nor could 1,000 Oprahs or 1,000 Stasias. They need as much help as they can get, and Stasia commits her money to many different causes, cancer research being #1. Also, as I’ve said before, Parker possibly saved Christian’s life by attacking him. Those workers sure didn’t look pleased, but Parker defused their possible attack on him by doing her own before they could reach him.
“it’s just the way your saying ‘She’s smaller’ it’s like saying Christian doesn’t have the right to respond in turn for her actions.”
I’ve never said that or insinuated that in any conceivable way whatsoever and I’m getting sick of morons like you saying I did. Anyone who says anything like that again will be banned.
Also, JSB, you’ve made three comments on this page and all three have said that Parker had the ability to kill him, which no one with a brain agrees with and which multiple people have refuted in detail multiple times. Stop making us repeat the same common sense points about how she can’t kill him as attempted and that the reason for that is her size/strength (and lack of significant weapons). You keep saying that her size doesn’t remove her ability to kill him with the shirt — YES, IT DOES! Try using your brain and actually reading the comic and seeing that she clearly could not hurt him because she’s too small/weak and he was easily able to punch her aside. And not a single person has in any way said that Christian shouldn’t have responded. OBVIOUSLY HE’S NOT GOING TO LET HER KILL HIM, but punching her was unnecessary and went too far. If he just pushed her aside, Guy wouldn’t have punched him obviously, but instead would have ran up and pushed him back to separate them and told him to get the fuck out.
January 31st, 2008 at 8:40 pm
couple things to say:
1: Way to go Guy!
2: “NOT THE FACE” most awesome line EVER!
3: third panel: Love the missing tooth
4: Good thing Stasia didn’t see this because
5: Guy looks REALLY scary in panel 2
great job on the page in general and the whole book thus far. it’s awsome
January 31st, 2008 at 9:18 pm
“4: Good thing Stasia didn’t see this because
5: Guy looks REALLY scary in panel 2″
She saw it. She was running right behind him, as you can see in Panel 4 of Page 59. She saw Guy from behind for the punch, though.
January 31st, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Heh…well, at this point I guess I mad a fool of myself, huh?
I’ll give up on the “Smaller size” topic, because clearly I lost there, and I apologize for the trouble I’ve caused you. Really…my bad.
By “Parker having the right to attack him”, she doesn’t. Christian has done nothing to Parker herself, but since I’m using my brain now, and hopefully I won’t be attacked for this, she’s taking action while others who do have more right to do so won’t. I guess it’s possibly also for the insults he used.
That’s about it, otherwise, I’m done. I’m very sorry for my stupidity and lack of paying attention to details…and arguing with the writer, who obviously knows more than I do about a characters’ traits and strengths (this is note sarcasm). Again, I love this comic, and I’m sorry I cause you a hard time as well as frustration. Good Luck.
January 31st, 2008 at 9:59 pm
And I meant to say (this is not sarcasm)*. My bad.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:05 pm
“By ‘Parker having the right to attack him’, she doesn’t. Christian has done nothing to Parker herself, but since I’m using my brain now”
Why do you keep saying this nonsense??? Of course he did things to Parker herself and you’re making me repeat them AGAIN, ugh, and no, you’re still not using your brain. Did you miss the part where Christian openly acted like the only reason Parker and her best friend should ever be seen by Stasia is if they’re dying of something and this is their dying wish that she’s granting? Christian also was clearly told their names but then decided to refer to Parker and Guy as the big one and the little one because he felt they were too inferior to him to even be called by their names. He might as well have just spit in their faces. Read old comments of mine for MANY more reasons why Parker attacked him. The list goes on and on, really, but you continue to ignore all of them.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Ok…I’m done, no more arguing/failing at debating points for me. I get it. Sorry for the trouble.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
“Also, JSB, you’ve made three comments on this page and all three have said that Parker had the ability to kill him, which no one with a brain agrees with and which multiple people have refuted in detail multiple times. Stop making us repeat the same common sense points about how she can’t kill him as attempted and that the reason for that is her size/strength (and lack of significant weapons).”
Ok, I just want to state that she DID have the ability to kill him. Now that, that was stated, I would also like to say, the WAY she was trying to kill him, had a 0% chance succeding.
Still, she didn’t need any weapons to kill him. I wrestle in school, I went agaisnt my budy who is litterally twice my size. (He’s 300lbs, I’m 160). I had him tapping out in 30 seconds.
Obviously Parker had to ability to take him to the ground, all she had to do was elbow him in the soft spot on the back of his head if she wanted to actually kill him.
Now before we get into personality, I just wanted to make a point that size, and lack of weapon, while they played a roll, were not the main reason we are not at a Christian funeral right now.
I believe, (My opinion) that the reasons she didn’t kill him, are method (A palm thrust to the nose would have been fine) and Desire. (She didn’t ACTUALLY want to kill him.) She only wanted to hurt an asshole, a feeling we all get, I’m sure, everyday.
There, now that I’ve stated my personal opinion, I will now dive into a pool to avoid flames.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Also, even if Christian hadn’t done anything personally to Parker I think he deserves an attack from anyone in the area for firing those workers and ending his charity for the reason he did, which was pretty disgusting to me. And the reason I’ve been so harsh with you — this being said to the people who will whine about our exchange and say that I’ve been a horrible asshole yet again to a fan — is because you say either false things or opinion based things in such absolutes like “he did not punch her” and “she doesn’t [have the right to attack him]” and so on, which is pretty annoying to me, along with making me (and others) repeat things many times, like about how Parker clearly couldn’t kill him in that situation. Anyway, glad to see that you’re not one of those people who gets super pissed off and sensitive about such things.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:24 pm
I think JSB has a point. Christian has been a massive jerk, granted, but since when does it justify physical violence? Especially since he was walking away and in no way threaten anybody. Heck Parker was strangling him when he hit her, it was basically self-defense.
I’m not gonna weep over Christian’s fate ind you, and I found it highly amusing. But Guy and Parker assaulted him for really weak reasons.
If I punched every name-calling immature losed I crossed paths with I’d be out of a job and have really sore fists within a day ;P
January 31st, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Speaking as a lawyer, Nairobi is an English common law jurisdiction, so has a shares a similar legal tradition with America. Parker commited assault and battery upon Christian, and Christian was well justified to use reasonable force in self-defense. Since Parker’s attack was unprivileged, Guy’s attack is also unprivileged and is also liable in assault and battery. Not only could Christian sue them both in the court of law, they could serve jail time. I’d have to imagine the potential cost ramifications of Christian’s tooth would easily bankrupt Guy if he chose to pursue legal recourse.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Well, It’s probably true that I was very annoying…and no, I don’t get super pissed or sensitive, and most of the time I’ll admit I’m wrong and apologize for it. But I might feel a bit better about this situation without the insults. But then again, since I was stating my false opinions, and taking the comic as absolute, like you said, I guess that would be an insult to you and your comic/story
But now, at least I can look back on this and laugh at my stupidity. Next time I’ll make sure I have all possible info before I argue again. No hard feelings?
January 31st, 2008 at 10:45 pm
to the one who has been beaten by his mother: i am sorry to hear that and it really sucks , may it be father or brother or mother or sister its never fun to be beaten up by some1 of his own family when your growing up
to the same guy who married a girl who beats him up: you kinda had it for you there man…
onto my coment about this comic now
but anyways , ive also had a problem once with one of my formers girlfriend
thats how it went: one day we got into this argument and her already explosive temper exploded and she srated attacking me ,couples of punch there and couples kicks here nothing to be worry about ( she was 5 ft 100lbs max and i go 5”10 and 200….) but the simple fact of being hit repeatedly aint that fun you know?
so after 30-45 seconds i was very tired of bloking and getting her blows so i punched her somewhat hard sqare in her chest , choking tyhe air out of her for a sec or two and instantly stopping her attack on me
while i do not ammend the fact of hitting a woman since i kinda consider myself a gentleman of some sort i have to admit in the past ive had problems that wouldnt be solved by speaking ( them attacking me) but only in reality checking punches so i totaly agree with the fact that christian punched ”the litle one” to free himself , i personally would have mostly done the same
but i personaly have a 1st degree blackbelt in judo that i l;earned mostly to protect my friends and girlfriend in moments they would need it
yes when we look at the situation from a neutral point of view parker was going overboard, you have to see it
BUT parker is the friend of guy
a friend which is a girl on top of that
a friend which is a girl that got punched by a man of average male size while she is of average female size too
its like adding the little cherry on all the creamy topping
now you violence haters of all kind tell me this, would you really not have helped you friend parker?
i sure know i would have , its only normal
but would you really have standed there to get choked/pummeled by a girl even if your twice her size?
i know i would have got my way trough her to get free
personally i hate christian and i love guy , which denotes that the writer of this comic bobby crosby ( who is very nice to speak to if you dare try instead of bashing him here )is doing a wonderfull job in fleshing the characters the way they should be
i personally didnt discover any new factes i didnt knew parker had , but i persnally am thrilled by guy jumping to save her friend . evenn if shes clearly guilty and not staying there and yelling at them to stop like so many protagonists have done lately in romance flicks
so to sum it up
being beaten down by gurls is bad
hitting gurls is bad exept when you must defend yourself against ONGOING assaults
protecting weaker than ourselves friends no matter what is pretty good
congrats to bobby in doing such a great work with the characters of this comic
and i hope you dont get your hopes down on the readers of this comic becauz of such *arhem* bobby , they just really need love
or to be beaten some sense in by their wives
your guess xD
January 31st, 2008 at 10:54 pm
“I think JSB has a point. Christian has been a massive jerk, granted, but since when does it justify physical violence?”
Since the beginning of time maybe? This is Earth you’re living on. And it’s more than just being a massive jerk when you hire poor people to do a job and then fire them almost instantly after that for no reason and also end a charity that could have saved lives.
“Heck Parker was strangling him when he hit her, it was basically self-defense.”
Of course it was self defense. No one’s arguing that! It was slightly excessive self defense, in my opinion, but I do NOT HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH CHRISTIAN PUNCHING PARKER. But I also have absolutely zero problem with Guy punching Christian after Christian punched Parker, because at that point Guy is essentially OBLIGATED to do so. Parker is now in a FIGHT with a guy twice her size and if Guy doesn’t come in and back her up he’s being a horrible friend and a coward, no matter if her attack on Christian was justified or not.
“But Guy and Parker assaulted him for really weak reasons.”
I think only total morons would think Guy punched Christian for a weak reason. Parker’s reasoning was debatable, but in my opinion she was perfectly justified in doing so. Either way, Parker’s already been established as a psycho fan.
“If I punched every name-calling immature losed I crossed paths with I’d be out of a job and have really sore fists within a day”
If you punched every guy who punched your much smaller female friend you’d still have your job and not have sore fists at all.
“Not only could Christian sue them both in the court of law, they could serve jail time.”
LOL. Every single witness absolutely despises Christian and if anything he’d be the one serving jail time for punching Parker. Also, Stasia is one of the most beloved people in Nairobi and all of Kenya for the tens of millions she donates to charity there and for the personal work she does to help their people. Any possible court case would go however she wants it to go.
JSB: No hard feelings, of course.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:56 pm
I don’t think there’s gonna be legal ramifications to what happened, even though in real life Guy would be pretty much doomed since people like Chistian have excellent lawyers.
It’s just not the focus of the story.
I don’t think it’s even possible to legally go to Africa the way they did in the comic. Wouldn’t they need to get their passports, get authorisation to leave the airport AND get a few shots to boost their immune systems before going?
It’s just a very fun and engaging cartoon, with great chemistry between the two leads. The story works very well the way it’s writen, and it’s at least as realistic as anything Hollywood releases in an average year
January 31st, 2008 at 11:05 pm
“If you punched every guy who punched your much smaller female friend you’d still have your job and not have sore fists at all.”
If my much smaller friend picks a fight with a guy twice her size, wrestles him to the ground and starts strangling him with a dirty rag, she’s welcome to the consequences of her actions. As long as the guy isn’t using excessive force.
And let’s face it. Christian couldn’t use eccessive force even if he tried
Oh, and thanks for calling me a moron for disagreeing with you. I really feel welcome now.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Pascalken: Liked your comment, thanks.
“Wouldn’t they need to get their passports, get authorisation to leave the airport AND get a few shots to boost their immune systems before going?”
At least a dozen people have been banned in the disgusting arguments about that topic. I forget which pages to refer you to — somewhere in the 40s mostly. Or just google “marrymemovie” and “passport.”
“Oh, and thanks for calling me a moron for disagreeing with you.”
Just to repeat, you said that Guy had a weak reason for punching Christian and I said that anyone who thinks defending his best friend from a guy twice her size who just punched her is a weak reason is a moron. If you’re still saying that’s a weak reason, you’re one of the stupidest people in the world.
“And let’s face it. Christian couldn’t use eccessive force even if he tried”
It doesn’t matter, but I’m quite confused by that. He’s a big guy and almost certainly works out. Most movie stars, especially young ones like him, are in great shape, and he’s also incredibly stupid and clearly doesn’t really understand how the world works, and just maybe he’d start beating the crap out of Parker if Guy didn’t jump in and help.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:30 pm
I think how it is interesting how one comic can prompt such ideas and debates. It takes a talented person to create situations that can stir such emotions. A talented writer can almost make the reader dispise any character that they wish. A talented writer can create situations that give a feeling of justification for the reader.
I personally enjoyed seeing Christian getting pounced, I also enjoyed a friend protecting another. No matter what opinions we may have about this comic I believe that some of the readers (including myself) can agree that this comic is fulfilling it’s purpose: to entertain. I enjoy this comic and I look forward to more updates.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Geez, even if Guy’s action is not justified, it’s just what anyone loving and eventually hotblooded will do if your best friend ist knocked down, even if it was just for some reason to do that. So cut it out and read the comic as a comic or leave it be. That’s not “real life” or “how to teach my child the proper actions in any difficult situations of life”
January 31st, 2008 at 11:44 pm
I’m female and I feel that Christian only overreacted slightly. Could he have bucked the much smaller Parker off or somesuch if he tried? Probably. However, people need to consider that if Parker actually was succeeding in choking him in any way, whether by airway constriction or a half-assed blood choke, the logical part of Christian’s brain was shutting down very, very rapidly and subsiding to panic. The human mind is DESIGNED to react this way, and he may not have done the same thing had she been, say, pulling his hair, when his logical problem-solving would had remained intact. And, in fairness, he’s not all that bright to start.
Guy’s reaction, I’m neutral on (though I’ll admit I lean more towards “go Guy!” than not.
). It’s awesome that he’s willing to defend his friend and is so chivalrous, but Christian wasn’t entirely justified. Of course, maybe he didn’t expect the poor bastard to have such a glass jaw.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Excuse me, “unjustified.”
“Christian wasn’t entirely unjustified.”
January 31st, 2008 at 11:56 pm
ViolenceRules: I’m sorry about your personal history, and thank you for sharing it. I didn’t mean in my previous comment that women, being generally smaller, have the right to be abusive and violent. I don’t think Parker was right to attack him at all. (I don’t know what world you’re living in, Bobby, but where I come from people don’t get assaulted just on the grounds of being a douche.) My point was that Christian, being larger, should have been able to know how to get her off without using that level of force.
My problems were with poorly written characters, period. Parker’s shown to be insane? We already know this. Christian’s shown to be an idiot? Same. Guy is protective of Parker, no matter how crazy her actions? The punch was out of character, and IMO really stupid, but we know this about him already. Showing people out of character doesn’t make them well-rounded.
Why, yes, I have been banned from here before, thank you for asking. Bitter? Not so much. I’d like to know *why* I was banned (I was Troglodyke, my critisicm back then was that Parker is really one-dimensional- see a theme here?- and I didn’t lie or insult you personally), but it’s not that critical. Kind of funny, though, that you ban people from here for insulting you but you feel free to call your fan base morons and idiots (and worse in previous pages).
January 31st, 2008 at 11:58 pm
“I’m female and I feel that Christian only overreacted slightly.”
Just want to say again that I agree with this description and have never said otherwise. I also want to repeat that I don’t think the justification level of Christian’s punch matters in any way for Guy’s response. I think Guy’s perfectly justified in punching Christian even if Christian was perfectly justified in punching Parker. Sometimes things just have to happen that way, no matter how they were started. Didn’t World War I happen because all these countries had treaties with other countries where they HAD to come to their aid if they got into a war, so almost the whole world ended up fighting just because some moron’s son was killed? Sort of a similar thing here, except luckily no one died in this skirmish.
February 1st, 2008 at 12:02 am
Great comic, honestly. I’d definitely be happy to see this on the big screen at some point in time (as long as the acting isn’t just plain awful).
I’m just wondering, after Christian hits Parker, how does he get into a semi-upright position before Guy gets up to him so that he can get punched to the ground? I thought he was still on the ground when he hit Parker.
If you saw your friend get hit by a guy you know for a fact is a pompous jerk, I’m pretty sure most people would react immediately with some sort of violent type action, or at least a “Get the **** away from my friend” response. It doesn’t really matter whether it was the “smart” thing to do or not. Not trying to say I disagree at all with Guy’s reasons, since I think he had perfectly good reasons for what he did and honestly, I’d have done the same thing in his position.
Parker does make some very amusing situations, doesn’t she?
Please keep it up!
February 1st, 2008 at 12:25 am
“I don’t know what world you’re living in, Bobby, but where I come from people don’t get assaulted just on the grounds of being a douche.”
#1, on Earth people get assaulted and killed all the time for just being a douche. #2, what he did was a lot worse than just being a douche, as I’ve explained 3,000 times already on this page alone. If you can’t understand that, and I know you can’t, since you can’t understand ANYTHING AT ALL and you prove this with everything you say, then that’s too bad.
“Guy is protective of Parker, no matter how crazy her actions? The punch was out of character, and IMO really stupid, but we know this about him already. Showing people out of character doesn’t make them well-rounded.”
How the fuck is it out of character for a nice guy to defend his friend??? It’s extremely in character. Also, the “out of character” complaint is almost always incredibly wrong and incredibly stupid and that’s certainly the case here. First of all, we don’t know a whole lot about about Guy yet, so it’s basically impossible to say that something he does is out of character. Also, people in real life act “out of character” CONSTANTLY. How many times have you said “I can’t believe I did that” or “I can’t believe he did that” or “I can’t believe you did that — that doesn’t sound like you at all!”? It happens all the time. When people act “out of character” is when they’re most revealing of their true character. But it makes no sense on any level whatsoever to say that Guy’s punch was out of character. Please try to explain to me how it’s conceivably stupid for Guy to defend his best friend who was just punched by a guy twice her size. Do it in an e-mail, though, since you’re obviously banned yet again for being a lying asshole.
“I’d like to know *why* I was banned (I was Troglodyke, my critisicm back then was that Parker is really one-dimensional- see a theme here?- and I didn’t lie or insult you personally)”
You definitely did at least one of those things and probably both. My e-mail history doesn’t go back that far, so I can’t see the deleted comments, but I’m 99.9% sure that you made at least one comment after the only one that I can find and I’m quite sure it contained more lies and personal insults. You already insinuated that you made at least one comment that didn’t go up. ANYWAY, here’s the comment that I did find –
http://www.marrymemovie.com/main/2007/11/13/page-51-friends/#comment-6626
First you confused me with Eisu, then you said that I’m condescending to Parker and that I only used a lesbian in the story to distract from the main plotline. You also said a bunch of stupid shit that made no sense. See my response –
http://www.marrymemovie.com/main/2007/11/13/page-51-friends/#comment-6645
My guess is you made one more comment after that and it was so annoying and filled with more personal shit about me that I deleted it and banned you.
“Kind of funny, though, that you ban people from here for insulting you but you feel free to call your fan base morons and idiots (and worse in previous pages).”
In almost all cases I only insult people after they’ve already insulted me, and those people, like you, are very rarely fans of the comic. I do like, though, how you use the excuse of “I like to look at the pretty pictures” for the reason why you continue to read every page of a comic you hate so much and have been banned from the comments of. And in the other cases where I insult people it’s usually a general thing like “Only morons would think Guy was stupid to defend his friend in a fight,” which is just a fact. Anyone who disagrees with that should kill themselves for being so insanely fucking stupid.
February 1st, 2008 at 2:01 am
Panel 3. Nice hit.
February 1st, 2008 at 2:04 am
I’ve never seen so many posts made by Bobby…
People, this is not a hard fucking concept.
As Bobby has clearly said, and if you spent more than three seconds thinking about it:
Parker attacked Christian for pissing off Stasia. Parker tries to choke him with a shirt. Christian hits Parker in self-defense, however he over-does it (or this is at least how it is supposed to come off). Guy steps in for Parker to defend her, not caring whether she’s in the right or wrong, but rather sticking up for his friend.
Those of you who are bitching about how Guy is in the wrong to step in for Parker remember, it’s a matter of opinion. If you don’t like it, stop reading the comic. If you don’t want to stop reading the comic, stop bitching and sending personal attacks at Bobby. If you’re incapable of either, shoot yourself. Simple.
February 1st, 2008 at 2:40 am
Bobby feels that it’s okay to attack people who say mean things to you. This might be messed up logic, but he’s the writer so deal with it. Besides, it’s not like anyone is out of character.
1. Parker is insane, we know this
2. Christian is an ass, we know this
3. Guy is loyal to friends, we know this
They all show these traits in new ways (Pounching, bitch punching, and falcon punching), but they’re still the same traits on the same people.
February 1st, 2008 at 2:47 am
Bobby Crosby writes: Didn’t World War I happen … because some moron’s son was killed?
Sorry to nitpick, but moron seems unfair. Reactionary fool might be appropriate, but moron is perhaps better suited to serious inbreds, like Carlos II of Spain, whose mother was also his aunt and grandmother. But even that is unfair since it was not his fault. But he was sterile (as well as physically and mentally disabled), and his passing kicked off the Wars of the Spanish Succession (1701-1714). That was a world war that also realigned global power and left at least several hundreds of thousands of people dead.
As for Franz Ferdinand, he was not expected to become the heir. Many people had to die before his murder to set up the situation. (Real life stories often seem less believable than fiction. =)
But what does this have to do with the comic, you ask? Ah, because the real cause was a bad marriage and a meddling father!
Archduke Rudolf, Ferdinand’s cousin and heir to the empire, had an unhappy marriage. So, Rudolf got himself a mistress, of whom his father did not approve. So unstable Rudolf went and killed his mistress and himself. Since Rudolf was only heir of his father, the throne went to the king’s brothers. Since the middle brother, Archduke Maximillian, got himself killed two decades earlier while playing emperor in the foreign land of Mexico, that left Archduke Charles Louis as heir. And Charles deferred in favor of his eldest son, Franz Ferdinand.
If Ferdinand’s meddling Uncle (Emperor Franz Joseph) had consented fully to Ferdinand’s wedding (and not hoped for inbreeding instead), Ferdinand and his wife Sophie probably would not have been in Sarajevo and someone else would have gotten killed instead, delaying the war until some other incident started it.
The US NY Times article announcing Charles Louis’ death is actually rather amusing, by the way:
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9406E1DE153BEE33A25753C2A9639C94679ED7CF
It describes hims as “a Hapsburg of the most reactionary, narrow-minded, and bigoted kind”. But it doesn’t call him a moron. (=
February 1st, 2008 at 2:52 am
Bobby Crosby says:
>>That’s your opinion that she has no right to attack him — I think she has every right in the world to do so and that a lot more pieces of shit like him should be attacked.<<
Violence Rules replies:
Really? Tell me, if everybody who fails to provide jobs to hungry Kenyans deserves to be attacked, won’t that mean that three hundred million Americans are due to get hit any time now?
Bobby, you have proven what I said. You created an imaginary person called ‘Christian,’ and your imaginary person does not resemble a real person in any way, unless you intend Christian to be a schizophrenic or a drug addict, or both. No real person would actually imagine that a straight woman — a woman whom he knows to be straight — is as likely to marry a woman as a man. No real person is likely to distinguish between a man and a woman by calling them ‘the big one’ and ‘the little one.’ What, is Christian the only person in this nation who cannot see a person’s gender? Or, is Christian the only person in this nation who considers height a more important distinguishing characteristic than gender? No real person could spend weeks or months working in Kenya and not know that the people of Kenya do not speak Spanish — that is simply impossible. And, if Christian thinks the workers speak Spanish, why doesn’t he fire them in Spanish? And, if Christian is already rich, why does he spend thousands — or millions — trying to ‘win the love’ of a rich girl? And, if Christian wants the love of this rich girl so much, why does he walk away from his project in such a casual manner? Is he stoned?
The answers are all obvious. Christian is not in any way, shape, or form a real person, and he does not resemble a real person. You invented Christian for one reason and for one reason only. You know that your female market likes seeing women attack men, and you knew that your female market will pay money for a product in which men beat up men who protect themselves from women who attack men. This board is already full of messages from women who are glad to see you affirm this ‘basic right.’ Encouraging domestic violence should make you good money, but it is still wrong.
I tried to post this three times, and it would not go through. The error signal says “Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for WordPress, ” so it does not look like this message will go through. Bobby, your server is down more often than it is up. Maybe you should look for a different hosting package.
February 1st, 2008 at 6:01 am
“Those of you who are bitching about how Guy is in the wrong to step in for Parker remember, it’s a matter of opinion. If you don’t like it, stop reading the comic. If you don’t want to stop reading the comic, stop bitching and sending personal attacks at Bobby. If you’re incapable of either, shoot yourself. Simple.”
Amen
February 1st, 2008 at 6:05 am
in truth, you don’t need a closed loop to strangle someone to death, you only need a closed loop to strangle yourself. If you, and I don’t care how small you may be, are kneeling on top of someone’s back with a rope, a scarf, or anything else long enough around the front of their neck, you can kill them.
now despite what I just said, I will agree that her chances of killing him from that position are slim to less than none. In order to actually kill him, she could place her knee at his spine, wrap the scarf around her hands, and then pull REALLY hard.
on a side note, what I meant by the whole ‘good thing Stasia didn’t see’ was she probably couldn’t see his face since she was behind him.
also, sorry if this makes me sound like a total goob but what is the whole ‘falcon punch’ reference about?
February 1st, 2008 at 6:07 am
I also love how he just grabs her foot mid swing as if that would have no chance of disrupting her balance and knocking her over
February 1st, 2008 at 6:30 am
Bobby, taking time to appease or justify yourself to the vast minority of the dissenters out there that hate your *in-progress* work of Marry Me is only going to be a 100% a waste of time. Leave the detail wrangling to us supporter fanboys/gals.
There’s no need wasting your energy on those attention-grabbing mental/emotional vampires and set it towards continuing your work. Saves on headaches and bad mood days too, if I remember correctly. ;2)
Anyways, my 2 cents say this comic is a good read thus far, and I can’t make any final personal judgments until the story is done.
Ok, now where were we? Oh yeah…
February 1st, 2008 at 6:36 am
Best page so far.
I miss the days when the comments were full of spoilers, not arguments.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:20 am
Why does everyone keep saying that parker was strangling christian? Since when is pulling back on a shirt the same thing as strangling? Sounds like people are just pulling arguments out of their ass for the sake of arguing.
Have someone pull back on a shirt that is around your neck, and keep a hand on the shirt(just like Christian), and you will be able to breathe just fine. Also make sure that you are about 200 pounds, and whoever is ontop of you is 110(at the most). All you will have to do to get up is roll over, not smack the person in the face.
Her violence was justified, so stop trying to pull these stupid arguments out of nowhere. Jeez.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:24 am
maybe guy should replace cap. falcon in the new smash bros game.
February 1st, 2008 at 8:00 am
You know what, I’m going to make a complaint about the comments.
I have always taken the comments as being a place to offer constructive critisisms. I’ve read back and seen that someone told me not to read so much into it – but speaking from a writer’s standpoint (it’s what I do for a living – I work for a Newspaper) I would want nicely worded critisism if I thought it would help the integrity of the story.
My problem is this. I would never. EVER. Attack Bobby.
I think he’s come up with a delightful, unusual premise for a story. Yes, I’m having trouble swallowing Parker attacking Christian – but as I said back in one of my comments, Parker has *always* been over the top and as I said last page, my personal feelings on the subject aside – I think she acted in character.
I’m not (trying to be) overly critical, I’m trying to voice my opinions to Bobby, in the hopes that if he really does get a shot to make it to the movies, that he has a chance to review some of the Constructive comments to make the movie as successful as he could ever want it to be. It’s been my experience that having an outsider’s view can only help sometimes.
That said, the uproar from the story based on the previous pages should be enough to think that in this story’s next incarnation, it might need to be looked at. Considering a sample of people who respond (based on marketing results from retail stores) most people don’t complain when they have a problem with something, they simply never come back. So the story complaints that your readers are having mean that there have to be some people who have simply left.
I don’t want you to lose readers. Thus far, I’ve really liked this story. I’m a hopeless romantic, so my heart is beating to see more interaction between Guy and Stacia – but really that’s just me totally loving all aspects of Romance all the time. (Guess what I write as a hobby
)
Honestly, though, I’m disgusted with some of the critics here. If you’re not trying to be helpful, get out. There’s no reason to be mean.
February 1st, 2008 at 8:01 am
Testing. I think the page ate my comment.
February 1st, 2008 at 8:49 am
wow this page is really good and we see more of Guys’ character. Not every guy will punch another guy out. Plus this is the first time Guy has been seen looking so absolutely pissed. Then sseing Parker’s comment makes me think that Guy does have a temper at times. and probably defended her a few other previous times with the same result.
February 1st, 2008 at 9:26 am
haha, I just read the bit where someone was complaining cos a COMIC wasn’t realistic…mwhahaa… have they ever heard of batman..? awesome page btw, that Christian sure got what was coming to him.
Annnnd if a man hits a woman it is soo normal for another man or woman to then knock him to the ground and pound on him a little bit. Its just how it goes and anyone who has said or thinks otherwise has clearly been living on the moon in a small moon hut with no tv or radio for the last billion years!
This comic rocks and people who dont like it should just not read it, i don’t get why they bother commenting at all…I love reading all the funny comments that people put while I’m waiting for new updates and all you complainers just ruin my frickin day.
peace.
February 1st, 2008 at 9:46 am
I really liked this comic! Cooows! XD
February 1st, 2008 at 9:49 am
I loves it!
February 1st, 2008 at 10:56 am
BOOM! HEAD SHOT!
February 1st, 2008 at 11:19 am
I personally feel that Parker wasn’t justified in attacking Christian. I don’t agree with your reasonings to why she did it. I feel her reasons were wrong. It’s not okay to hit people just because they pissed you off. It’s barbaric.
It’s really disheartening to see the writer of this comic resorting to insults and name-bashing when someone interprets his work differently than they intended. And because of Bobby’s insults, I can’t read this comic anymore.
February 1st, 2008 at 11:42 am
The comments are even more entertaining than the comic
I really don’t understand why you get so upset about some comments. On Topic: I think in this situation there is the choice of not punching Christian. I probably wouldn’t do it (so i am obviously a moron and maybe I’ll shoot myself for that) – but that is no reason to stop reading the comic because on the one hand it is a fictional story and it doesn’t have to be like I see the world – especially because it is supposed to be funny and on the other hand I don’t hate everything that doesn’t fit my expectations… my life would be even more miserable than it is already
If I learn one thing here: Don’t discuss with people who escalate everything to a personal level. It’s pointless and you can’t complain if you respond on the same level. That goes for both sides obviously.
Peace!
February 1st, 2008 at 11:44 am
Kick im! Kick im! KICK IM! I’LL SETTLE FOR THE GROIN!
February 1st, 2008 at 11:47 am
Let me think outloud for a minute and see if I can get anywhere with this:
Step 1 — Christian is giant douche, and insults Parker and Guy. Both of them are probably itching to hit him, but they know it wouldn’t be justified, so they restrain themselves.
Step 2 — Christian cancels charity project and fires workers. Totally within his rights to do, but still kinda repulsive. Guy still restrains himself. Psycho fan Parker does not restrain herself.
Step 3 — Parker attacks Christian, rather ineffectively. Guy tries to stop her, since he’s still on the “restraint” side of the equation.
Step 4 — Parker looks back at Guy, giving Christian an opening to counterattack her. Counterattack is only slightly more effective than Parker’s initial attack, and rather more justified.
Step 5 — Guy’s kinda been itching to hit this guy for awhile, but since he was thinking logically, he knew he didn’t have a defensible reason. Now he has an excuse! Granted, not the best excuse, but if you squint the right way… So since Guy was already mad at him, he allows his mind to jump to the (incorrect) conclusion that the best way to defend Parker is to Falcon-Punch Christian.
Step 6 — Stasia catches up and says…?
February 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Epic, absolutely epic.
February 1st, 2008 at 12:45 pm
I think pretty much everyone will agree that in firing all those workers, yanking away all that promised charity etc. etc. Christian DESERVED at LEAST a punch to the face, but of course LEGALLY any physical violence done to him was unjustified. I don’t think people are really making a clear distinction there.
Also I am wondering if part of the reason there has been so much debate/confusion might be due to, well….
First- this is a webcomic: between each set of actions we wait days to see what consequence they have. Generally in the setting of a movie we can see these consequences more or less immediately, and these help us, among other things, determine the message/point that whoever is presenting the story to us is trying to send/make. In the case of a webcomic however we have no such instant clarification and thus can sometimes misinterpret the message the author is trying to send because we haven’t seen any consequences- which until the next page gets posted can make us feel like there *are* no consequences (which is probably not going to be the case) and that perception can drastically change what the author’s point/message seems to be.
Two- Parker is a zany more-or-less loveable main character and because this comic revolves around Guy and Stasia, her being on Guy and Stasia’s side can automatically make people (conciously or not) label her a “good guy” while Christian is pretty much undebateably a Bad Guy (re: firing workers, slighting Guy & Parker, etc.). Thus, especially without the aforementioned consequences to help us filter the message, it is not hard to see how it seems like the story is trying to tell us that Parker was totally justified in attacking, Christian was totally unjustified in retaliating in any way, and guy definitely should have punched out Christian because He Hit A Girl.
But really- the story hasn’t finished talking. So all we *actually* know is that we have three people each in their own intense, emotional situations and all three of them have reacted with (varying levels of) irrational things.
I guess beyond that, the only debate is in a difference of personal opinion on who was right/wrong, justified/unjustified etc. And while stating your opinion on it is all well and good I guess, when you get into long debates on the issue, you’re more trying to change other fans’ opinions of a social issue rather than commenting on the comic, which is all well and good if you like debating, but is the comments board for a webcomic really the place for that?
In closing ( I think I just wrote a whole essay)- remember when Parker told Stasia that Guy was a pirate and everyone was like “WHAT A HORRIBLE FRIEND I HATE HER!†and then the next page or two came along and it became clear that Parker was not being serious and not expecting to be taken seriously? So while at first it could have seemed like the story was showing us what a bad friend Parker was, the point of that exchange was actually in showing us that Parker really is crushed by this development and Stasia is a really nice person?
).
So my point is I guess that in reading this we should keep in mind that we are reading this in webcomic form, not watching a movie, so in this case instant judgement = bad (because we don’t yet know how things’ll work out), rampant speculation = good (because we don’t yet know how things’ll work out
February 1st, 2008 at 2:07 pm
No matter how politically incorrect this comic can ever be, I love it~!
And about that comment earlier that Guy would become anything women love, no, I don’t think so, since he’s not /my/ ideal man.
Maybe I /already/ like painted toenails? ((I don’t, though -sweatdrop-.))
Maybe I don’t want to date a geek?
And I don’t read this comic because I think Guy’s hot. That’s what Fruits Basket is for. I read this comic because it has amazing art, diverse characters, and an original plot. As a writer/artist myself, there’s no way in hell I could do any better.
I’m done now.
<3
February 1st, 2008 at 2:11 pm
HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
February 1st, 2008 at 3:00 pm
@ Moss:”If you’re incapable of either, shoot yourself.”
What if you don’t have a gun? XD
@ General:
I don’t know if its fair saying Christain has a glass jaw. My school counseller can curl 200lbs with his arms, easy. Maybe Guy works out too? It wouldn’t be the first time i’ve seen a super strong counciler.
February 1st, 2008 at 3:10 pm
♥ Guy!!!
February 1st, 2008 at 3:17 pm
On top of it all… you can tell from last page that Guy does NOT agree with Parker attacking Christian, even telling her to get off him, but gets pissed after he sees him slap her. Yeah, Parker was impulsive (well, is and forever will be), but Guy doesn’t agree with her attacking him and by hell he doesn’t either with him slapping her like that.
Let’s say Christian didn’t fight back: Guy would come over and get Parker off of him and, most assuredly, he would even apologize to the moron even if he wasn’t at fault to begin with. By Elvis’ hair: he FIRED people he HIRED out of a RUSE to get Stasia interested and you people think he didn’t deserve AT LEAST a “Parker Rush”? Hell, not like she can even DO any damage! And even then, he could’ve just PUSHED her away instead of SLAPPING her — that’s not self-defense, that’s abusing strength, and to pay back that abusing strength, there came “teh Guy”.
I seriously can’t see why this comic gets that much controversy. I have to admit I was at first a tad mad at how Bobby seemed to lash out at people who attacked the comic but changed my mind downright when, after a while, I saw people attacking HIM instead of criticizing the comic and, those who DID criticize, did it based on lies other than actual facts just out of being a “happy troll”.
For example, I guess I could criticize Bobby on how horrible the updating schedule is, stating that it COULD be better if we could get at least three or two days of updates a week (hell, even ONE a week) but, considering how he manages between I-don’t-know-how-many-comics and Eisu being busy himself he can’t even update HIS OWN website, I think it’s moreso of an extra for us to have something from both of them at an irregular basis than have nothing at all. Yeah, I do NOT like that updates are so sporadic and off-schedule, but I at least try to get in their shoes before lashing out at them. Bobby has a LOT to do already to even have time to reply to us (which he does — never seen a writer actually take as much time to reply to the comments section before) and Eisu, although awesome as he is, is probably busy-as-sin with his own stuff to update his own space.
On top of it all, this is supposed to go as a “screenplay” of sorts, as a run-test for a possible movie — have you seen or known how many scripts and modifications a screenplay suffers before meeting completion? I’m sure Bobby has thought of a thousand ways to improve it that, as of now, he can’t change and Eisu has probably seen a thousand ways to improve his art that we haven’t even seen before.
Of course, Bobby and Eisu, if I’m wrong there and you can clarify… please do? I’m actually curious.
Also… are they forcing you to buy books or download from Wowio? Are they forcing you to come to the website? Are they charging you a dime? When they DO charge you a lot and we get NOTHING in return then yeah, I’ll turn to bitch-mode but, as of now, I’ll keep squealing about Guy until my wet dream of having one of my own is complete.
February 1st, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Hey Bobby and Eisu!
I work at comic book store out here in Utah and I was delighted to see Marry Me on page 244 of the new Previews! I’ll certainly order one for myself and at least one for my store as well! Big congratulations.
Oh, and way to go Guy for slugging him. Speaking as a girl who was once attacked it’s good to be able to throw a punch. Having a big guy friend to throw a punch for you is almost as good, though. Love the slightly mangled hand in panel five. Hitting someone in the face hurts.
February 1st, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Here’s to all those morons, assholes and liars out there – FUCK YOU. You’re horrible pieces of shit. Whoever criticizes Bobby’s work or reasoning should just fucking get a life.
February 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
“Sorry to nitpick, but moron seems unfair.”
I prefer “moron” to “guy” or “girl” or “person,” since almost everyone ever born is a huge moron. Also, Rosebud’s comment is the only one in the history of this site that I haven’t read every word of (and I don’t plan to).
Violence Rules: You’re a total fucking moron and you’re extremely annoying, so I’ll waste some more time responding to your nonsense because I love wasting time –
“Tell me, if everybody who fails to provide jobs to hungry Kenyans deserves to be attacked”
There’s a huge difference between providing jobs and then snatching them away as compared to never providing the jobs at all. He also set up a charity and then ended it before it got going. And don’t forget the 50,000 other damn reasons why Parker attacked him that I’ll try not to repeat to you for the 50,000th fucking time. Read the fucking comments. You’re banned obviously for ignoring every single thing I said a MILLION times and instead repeating your same fucking disgusting nonsense about how I PROMOTED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SOMEHOW — WHAT THE FUCK! Seriously, you can’t actually BELIEVE that — you must be some old hater of mine who is just trying to piss me off for fun and slander me.
“You created an imaginary person called ‘Christian,’ and your imaginary person does not resemble a real person in any way”
Oh, right, and all Hollywood movie stars are as real as possible, right? Fucking moron. He’s a male Britney Spears except a lot MORE normal.
“No real person could spend weeks or months working in Kenya and not know that the people of Kenya do not speak Spanish — that is simply impossible.”
This was his first day in Kenya, as was strongly implied already in many ways, one of which being that he said Stasia’s dad told him that she usually comes here after her tours end. Also, the main other language he’s been around in his life is Spanish, spending most of his life in California, so that’s all he can think of at the time.
“And, if Christian thinks the workers speak Spanish, why doesn’t he fire them in Spanish?”
Use your brain, moron. He only talked to them in Spanish because they weren’t responding in English to his cries for help and he tried anything he could to get them to understand that they had to help him.
“And, if Christian is already rich, why does he spend thousands — or millions — trying to ‘win the love’ of a rich girl?”
Huh? Don’t get it. Read the comic. She loves giving to charity and her dad told Christian to set up a charity near hers in Kenya so she’d possibly like him more. Makes perfect sense.
“You invented Christian for one reason and for one reason only. You know that your female market likes seeing women attack men, and you knew that your female market will pay money for a product in which men beat up men who protect themselves from women who attack men.”
LOL, you’re legally insane. I’m scared of you. None of those things ever entered my mind in any conceivable way and no one with a brain thinks they would have.
“Encouraging domestic violence should make you good money, but it is still wrong.”
Domestic violence??? You think Parker is either related to Christian or in an intimate relationship with him??? By definition it CAN’T be domestic violence. One person attacked another person because they were super pissed off at him for many good reasons and that person got punched in the face for making that attack. Fuck you for insanely saying that I’m encouraging domestic violence, you piece of shit.
“Bobby, your server is down more often than it is up. Maybe you should look for a different hosting package.”
Do you think there’s any chance in the world that I’m not aware of this?
“That said, the uproar from the story based on the previous pages should be enough to think that in this story’s next incarnation, it might need to be looked at.”
What it tells me is that it’s perfect how it is. If there’s never an uproar over anything, then you’ve written a very boring story where nothing of interest happens. Sparking debate is ideal.
“So the story complaints that your readers are having mean that there have to be some people who have simply left.”
Obviously — people leave constantly for various reasons and tons leave simply because of my attitude in the comments. And many more encourage others to read partly because of the comments and because of fun controversial things in the story. It’s amazing the audience has stayed as large as it is with how often we’ve updated the site in the past several months.
“It’s not okay to hit people just because they pissed you off. It’s barbaric.”
Parker is a barbarian. Again, this is Earth 2009, not Earth 2900, where maybe there are no more barbarians. In the real world some people attack people because they piss them off. I don’t know what world some of you morons are living in.
“It’s really disheartening to see the writer of this comic resorting to insults and name-bashing when someone interprets his work differently than they intended.”
I’ve never once insulted or name-bashed someone simply because they interpret my work differently than intended, liar, and you could search for years and never find one example of that.
“And because of Bobby’s insults, I can’t read this comic anymore.”
You should have never read it in the first place since you apparently think that all characters in any story should act like they’re living in the year 2900.
“I think in this situation there is the choice of not punching Christian. I probably wouldn’t do it (so i am obviously a moron and maybe I’ll shoot myself for that)”
What’s moronic is to think it’s fake or stupid of Guy to defend his best friend who is half the size of her opponent in a fight that just started. You’d simply be a bad friend and a coward for not acting similar, but not a moron.
Kerostasis made a good comment.
So did Tea.
So did Lola.
And several others.
February 1st, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Nice rant bobby, it’s been a long time since i read one that actually stayed on it stated topic.
anyways, back to the subject at hand, which it you story and Remy’s art.
Eisu the art is great as always. the look on Christian’s face was perfect, you captured the look of “foresight of incoming pain” flawlessly.
and bobby, first im glad you server problems are over…… well until the next problem. anyways, im glad you proved my theory about Guy, that he is the sort of man that would Knock a man out for hitting a women, but will not allow someone to kick that person when they are down. most people in that situation would have let parker take the kick.
and here’s a few problem, mainly the drop down quick link to though the archives is stopped at page 57.
February 1st, 2008 at 5:32 pm
“Nice rant bobby, it’s been a long time since i read one that actually stayed on it stated topic.”
Easy to stay on topic when I just quote people and respond exactly to what they said, which I always do.
“the drop down quick link to though the archives is stopped at page 57.”
I’ve edited it before to include it up to 59, but then it disappeared. I just changed it to include 60 and it’s working for me on some pages but not all, blah. Long story with the server change stuff, very very very annoying.
“anyways, im glad you proved my theory about Guy, that he is the sort of man that would Knock a man out for hitting a women, but will not allow someone to kick that person when they are down. most people in that situation would have let parker take the kick.”
Thanks for pointing that out. I guess Violence Rules didn’t notice that Guy worked to PREVENT violence there.
February 1st, 2008 at 5:35 pm
bobby don’t waste your time responding to them. they are like almost everyone you find on a forum or chat room. since they are anonymous they believe they can get away with saying anything so they say it.
February 1st, 2008 at 6:31 pm
I, personally, do think that men should have the right to defend themselves against women who are beating on them.
A clear point here, however… If Parker was able to scream out for help, his breathing was not exactly cut off, so he was in no danger. He paniced (because of a 97 pound lesbian on his back) and smacked her without thinking.
And… Got OWNED!
Guy is great for what he did, I think. Friends are friends, and asshats are asshats. If Guy had walked over and said “Can’t we all just get along?” no one would be happy right now.
I also think that Parker is a nut job… And I love her for it.
And that’s all I have to say about that.
February 1st, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Kate, Love the falcom punch image! ^_^ FTW
Remy, Eisu, pure gold, as always.
I <3 the hell out of your work, and can’t wait for the next! ^_^
February 1st, 2008 at 7:57 pm
First time I’ve commented on this web-comic, but I figured it was about time I did.
LOVE the expression on Parker’s face in the last panel! In previous pages, Parker wasn’t exactly one of my favourite characters, but she’s kinda grown on me, and I can fully empathise (?) with what she does here.
Heck, if someone was being a douche to me, or other people, or just being plain stupid as Christian has been in the last few pages, my first instinct (and, probably, action) would be to deck him (or in Parker’s case, throttle/strangle/neckburn him with what looks like one of his own ‘Stately Manor’ t-shirts!) then worry about justification later. I’m impulsive like that, and, so it appears, is Parker.
As for what Christian and Guy do…
Well, what Christian did was (in all probability) unnecessary (in hindsight), and Guy obviously let him know what he thought about it.
I really think that’s all there is to it =)
Great comic, guys. Love the artwork and the writing.
February 1st, 2008 at 9:13 pm
…Wow, this went a lot further then I thought it would…Did I accidentally start a movement?
February 1st, 2008 at 9:30 pm
bobby and crew great work as always. cant wait to see the next one. all thats missing from panel two is guy starting to turn green, and saying “puny man hurt hulks friend” “hulk hurt puny man”
February 1st, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Wow, was not expecting that one. Guess we all can be mistaken, and I am rooting Guy on from here! Though, my concern, what will his wife think?! Ah well, too late now. Can’t wait for next post!
February 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 am
If I had millions of dollars, I’m sure publishing this would be a priority
Really great comic… seems very short though…
On an off-hand note, I think it should be illegal for people to post comments that are longer than 75 words >=( especially the ones with destructive criticism, you can always stop reading the comic morons.
February 2nd, 2008 at 4:05 am
While I do not, in any way, condone Parker’s actions in attacking Christian, as a man who has been literally attacked by a woman, I think Christian uses much more force than is necessary. Due to a chain of events that I won’t go into, I was attacked by a woman who repeatedly tried to hit me in the groin and claw at my face with her nails. Call me chauvinistic if you like, but I will not hit a woman unless my life depends on it. I subdued the woman without striking her, even though a well placed punch would have saved me from many scratches.
People keep using the word slap when referring to how Christian hit Parker. This is stupid. He backhanded her. A well placed backhand, while obviously not as strong as a direct punch, can cause almost as much damage as what we call a “back fist†strike in karate. A well placed backhand can break a nose, knock loose teeth, and in extreme cases break a cheek (though unlikely) or dislocate a jaw. What Christian does is the equivalent of me body-slamming a five year old for putting me in a headlock. He was attacked first, and it is arguable that the attack was unjustified, but all he had to do was stand the fuck up.
Furthermore, anyone who bashes Guy for hitting him is either extremely callous or has never had to watch a friend get hurt when they could do something to stop it. I have not been in a lot of fights, but the few I have been in have been coming to the defense of (usually drunken or outnumbered) friends. Unless your friend is a frequently violent person who looks for trouble, I really don’t see how you could not come to the aid of a friend in a fight, regardless of who started it, especially a friend who is vastly outclassed.
Lastly, for those of you whining about how “in real life†people don’t just haul off and hit someone, or how they’d be legally responsible, etcetera, etcetera… guess what? Millions of fist fights take place everyday, most of which aren’t reported to the authorities, and they are often fought over much more trivial stuff than this. Furthermore, they’re in a third world country with only people who hate Christian as witnesses. Anyone who thinks the violence in this scene is poorly written or unrealistic is delusional.
Lastly, in Christian’s defense to all the glass jaw comments, have you ever been hit hard enough to get a tooth knocked out? Especially when he doesn’t appear to have been hit in the mouth, but the jaw the tooth being collateral damage. A hit like that would stop most people that are not used to being punched in their tracks.
February 2nd, 2008 at 4:29 am
“Oh crap, the big one.”
I love that line. Also how Guy holds her foot to keep her from kicking.
Christian is an a-hole and he had it coming.
February 2nd, 2008 at 8:17 am
Bobby, Eisu!!! Less posting, more drawing!
I want the next page now!
Doug
February 2nd, 2008 at 9:47 am
hot damn… that’s a lot of comments.
anyways, my thoughts on the past 2 pages:
personally, i can’t blame guy for falcon punching christian
“why?” you might ask? i’ve experienced this personally before. a good friend of mine (she’s my batchmate in the sorority counterpart of my fraternity) once stepped in while some bully was harassing some freshmen one day. what did the dude do? open-handed slap straight to her cheek. now there i was, seeing a close friend get hurt for trying to help out. im not going to be standing there like a jack-ass and think “how do i feel about it? was she in the wrong for stepping in? is she alright?” i rushed the guy and landed a solid hit to his diaphragm. was i excessive? in hindsight, perhaps. but to be honest, at that single moment, the only thing running through my mind was that my friend was hurt.
some here say that guy overreacted. but then again, we were not in the scenario itself. it was not our closest friend that got backhanded by a jerk. did guy do the right thing? i won’t pass judgement on that. to each their own, i guess. i only see these things:
1. christian was a jerk for staging a charity just to get back with stasia and an asshole for just up and firing the workers just because his plan didn’t work
2. parker jumped christian for reason no.1
3. christian backhanded parker for reason no.2
4. guy saw his friend get hurt and did the instinctive thing to do
5. christian just got his ass WHOOPED by our neighborhood counselor/nice guys
EISU, you’re artwork rocks. it really gives life to BOBBY’s writing style
BOBBY, amazing work here. to be able to draw so much passion from your readers is a mark of an excellent writer
More power guys, and keep the good stuff coming
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 am
greatest page ever, that dude deserves the final blow that Parker is about to deliver, lol. Lets see how many girls that dude gets with that gap between his teeth now, lol.
February 2nd, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Guy could have defused the situation easily without smashing the man’s face, especially that, in his line of work, he probably got at least an overview of basic techniques to do just that. Then again Chistian was a complete jerk and he slapped Parker in the struggle.
It’s understandable that Guy saw red. It was an irresponsible thing to do and doesn’t soleve anything, but it’s perfectly understandable.
I do find the assumption that small women being harmless in a fight somewhat dubious. My sister, sister in law and a few of my cousins are Parker’s size and can deffinitely do some serious damage in a fist fight. Heck the local news were all over a 12 year old shoolgirl who killed a 14 year old boy who was bullying her.
In a single badly placed punch.
February 2nd, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Stephane: Not a single person has said that small women are harmless in a fight.
February 2nd, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Well this is my first post here but I have been here awhile since the pirate comic. I found this through Eisu and the Kotor comic project. Now first let me just say that I read a lot of web comics Worldbreak, Misfile, No need, Last days of foxhound, Bob and george, 18-bit, and so on and so on.
Now because of that background I can say with a pretty good idea that Bobby your characters are pretty well done they have a few quirks here or there but all of them do.
Eisu good as always.
Now that I have that out of the way let me first say Christian derserved what he got. The whole charity was a scam in the first place he never intended to pay his workers to finish it up period. He was just using it to get to Stasia and back into her pants. So no jobs got taken away in fact because of Stasia they DO have jobs.
Parker is infatuted with Stasia to the point that she probably sees herself as Stasia’s Tool weapon and Heretic smitter. When Christian basically spit upon Stasia’s goals and desire to do good well just think Holy avenager mode and you got the idea. Its called a crime of passion and happens all the time all across the world. Humans felt emotions long before we got smart people its a fact. We don’t let go of that root easily.
Guy did the right thing. He saw Parker get attacked and responded with her defence a bit extreme but there you have it. And he probably broke his hand by the way the jaw is a very hard bone in the body hitting hard enough to knock someone out and a tooth is bound to break the bones or at least split the skin. As for the jaw there is something known as a glass jaw which is a bundle of nerves that when hit override the brain and cause it to shutdown. Also hitting his head on the ground could do it as well.
Parker could have killed Christian though the fact he could say anything says she wasn’t even close to doing it. But even if say she used the shirt properly its a cheap mass produced shirt it would have torn apart first. The slap/hit was also out of line Christion could have just reached up and tossed Parker off I would be suprisied if she weighed even 100 lbs wet.
As for the Whole domestic violence nice try pal aint working. A domestic Violence is between a couple or spouses what parker did is ASSUALT that is where someone attacks someone. As for the Whole women like beating up men Pshh its the guys who like it buddy. Nothing is more Erotic then watching a woman kick some serious butt its wood worthy just the thought alone have the sight and sounds in too MMMMMMAHHHHH.
As for the whole Bobby attacking people nahh he only responds to attacks like “you have no talent” “Flat characters” ” “Supporuts Domestic violence” that sort of thing he gets mad and irratated at people twisting thing around that are straight forward concepts. And in that case he has the right to get mad and its only when people continue to attack and lie that he bans people.
And that is about it Bobby thanks for writting Marry me and keep it up.
The watcher Revanninja
February 2nd, 2008 at 5:06 pm
I agree with almost everything Revanninja said, but this was incorrect:
“The whole charity was a scam in the first place he never intended to pay his workers to finish it up period. He was just using it to get to Stasia and back into her pants. So no jobs got taken away . . .”
No, they were definitely going to get paid if he kept the project going. I’m sure they received at least one paycheck already.
February 2nd, 2008 at 8:04 pm
xD Yes! I was hoping to see Guy sock ‘im one!
Great job on the page, both of you. =]
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Normally I just sit back an enjoy the ride, with the occasional glimpse into the making of the comic from Bobby or Eisu. However, I feel this needs to be said:
Bobby and Eisu are right. No matter what. They created the comic, put time and energy into it, and maintain the site which we all hover around while waiting for new pages. It doesn’t matter what they say/draw/write, they are the final word on all things Marry Me. If you say anything contrary to them about the comic, you are wrong. Stop arguing and insulting them about their work. If you don’t like it, draw your own comic, and then you can be right about everything.
February 2nd, 2008 at 11:20 pm
arguing online is like running in the special Olympics, even if you win, you’re still retarded.
Welcome to the internet, gentlemen, where the only one who cares about your opinion…is YOU!
Bobby, Eisu, great comic, one of my favorites, topped only by Last Blood, and perhaps Ctrl+Alt+Del.
/win!
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:13 am
D: I love your comic’s bobby, even if someone else doesnt.
Contructive criticism is muchly needed. American Idol Simon isn’t needed.
With much love.
And is this story really intended to be realistic?
I like it because it was outo f the ordinary, what pop start would marry some guy in a crowd? From the get-go you can tell this wouldnt be a realistic story. I love the plot line and so do alot of other people, thus why I check every day *though I know you dont update that often XD*
Keep this peice of online bliss going. : D
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 am
I would have killed him parkers got the right idea
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:56 am
Sux 2 b christian
February 3rd, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Am I the only one that would be concerned about the legal repercussions of hitting a celebrity, or is this going to be “What happens in Africa, stays in Africa” ?
February 3rd, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Zawa: I’ve addressed that multiple times on this page already.
February 3rd, 2008 at 10:38 pm
“Get the lil one offa me!”
….
“Oh shit! the big one!”
-laughs-
February 4th, 2008 at 12:04 am
Bobby, great stuff and keep up the good work. I really enjoy the comic and thanks to Eisu too!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Eisu made a great cover for the third WOWIO issue, by the way. Should be up on WOWIO within a few days. We’ll use the cover as a TWC voting incentive eventually, though, so non-Americans can see it (WOWIO is U.S. only).
February 4th, 2008 at 1:41 am
I can only hope that guy doesn’t get in too much trouble over this…
February 4th, 2008 at 3:55 am
thng is, Parker isn’t even hurt that bad, she’s got a small bruise which obviously is having a minimal effect on her at best, and while its great Guy is defending his freind you’d think he’d have greater control then that considering his job, in Panels 2 and he looks virtually demonic.
February 4th, 2008 at 6:17 am
Great as usual. I’d download it immediately, if I wasn’t part of all those non-US-residents.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:30 am
I can’t believe I just read all of the posts. I think Micha was the most helpful in the debate of this violence issue: “What Christian does is the equivalent of me body-slamming a five year old for putting me in a headlock. ”
I just wanted to say from experience of working in Africa and seeing native workers loose their compensation because someone decided to go back on their word and it is heartbreaking. I almost lost it and still try to hold myself back from beating the crap out of the those who took advantage. In my case, they pulled the wages from those they considered “lazy” or they had a “problem with.” It was completely ridiculous since I worked very closely with my workers and I took it personal. I couldn’t understand that if those workers are only getting 200$ a month anyway for working what a normal American would make in a week or some in a day, were they really justified in pulling wages of someone who is physically exhausted after a month of working from 6 am to 3 pm in the hot Saharan sun? Seriously, if I wasn’t technically being graded for my time there (and employed instead), I would have gone completely apeshit on the director that decided to pull the wages. Now I held myself back, but Parker at that point let emotions run over Stasia and what was going on to ultimately control her. What Parker did to Christian is exactly what I want to do every time I visit the town to see my workers and bump into the director. It breaks my heart to know that not only are they being exploited, but they have no choice but to except what they are given (even if they signed up for a higher wage).
Also, we have no idea what kind of relationship Chrisitan and Stasia could have had that prompted Parker to lash out. Could there have been some abuse then? Don’t know, since much of that relationship hasn’t been revealed. If Christian is moron enough to feel that slapping (or backhanding) Parker is a better idea to get her off than just standing up, then I don’t know what Christian could justify as a reasonable idea to hit anyone. If he knew he could breathe for words, why not pull the t-shirt off his neck, it apparently wasn’t on that tight. Being a victim of not only domestic abuse, rape, and physical abuse as a child, I know that it is way harder to fight back against someone you know, then someone you don’t care about at all. I doubt Christian really did have any anxiety over the situation, especially if his arms and legs were not constricted. I could see him in a panic though if he had no use of his arms. My take though. Remember everyone reacts differently, so you may feel that Christian would panic, while Bobby may have built the character to be able to handle this situation, but choose to take the easier road out. I feel though Micha correlating this attack to a headlock though is more appropriate, because I bet that is what it probably was.
I also agree that I would jump in if I saw a friend get hit regardless if what they were doing. Even if they were in the wrong, if I knew they were about to be overpowered I would do anything in my power to get them out of the situation. That’s what Guy did. He punched Christian to get Parker out, and then let Christian be. He was a neutralizer and then condones Parker for the extra violence when Christian is indeed helpless.
I think what we have learned from all of this is that violence doesn’t solve anything. Since no one is going to be content with its results (characters or readers). Now all we have is a knocked out Christian who will probably not grow from any of this (assumption on my part) and a situation that either Stasia will condemn or approve. In all, Guy has to explain his actions and Parker has a bruise on her cheek. I think the only people probably happy are the workers who witnessed the guy that signed their crappy paychecks and pulled their jobs get a rope burn and punched in the face.
I do have to say, this does fit a cultural stigma though, and I agree with whoever was fighting this point. What I don’t agree with is that it is necessarily that bad or lazy of the author to use it. A guy acts as the champion or his best friend and his wife’s morals as well as defending his own pride is something deeply rooted in out culture. Problem is, us fans are looking for holes to shoot through, whether it be what we think is factual or culturally defined only for controversy. I don’t think Bobby is trying to make some feminist statement, or antifeminist , or some strange statement on culture. I think he is basically taking Western culture and twisitng it. Come on, who doesn’t have that one psycho friend who would sacrifice themselves for some idol of theirs because they are really hiding an emotion and a deep void within their own life? How about that one non-douche friend that never seems to be able to get a date but always overlooked? What about that friend who doesn’t realize their own self worth because they are so used to having people define who they are? They may be considered “cliche” by some, but we recognize them because they exist. It is harder to make a reader face the reality in characters then it is to give them completely foreign aspects.
I don’t know, but I really enjoy the story line, I like seeing how the characters react, I can suspend my disbelief for this comic over things I might not agree with, and I know I personally hate waiting for updates but treasure them when they come.
I think people should stop attacking in such a: I know more than you tone and really add in constructive criticisms. I really don’t see anyone backing up anything and really just repeating what has already been said. Maybe someone (or I if I had time), to make a FAQ section over all the stupid arguments the boards have had. Thereby all Bobby has to say is, refer to FAQ.
Anyway, great comic. My time on the soap box is over.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Wow, the comments are sometimes even more interesting than the comic itself, and thats saying alot…
February 4th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
I really enjoy this comic. I check it daily, sometimes more. And I’m very attached to the characters. But am I the only one who thinks these people are waay over reacting to a work of fiction? I mean jesus christ. I thought the Comment section was for constructive critisism and compliments, not a fuckig overview of Spanish archdukes (yes, I read it, I thought there might be a point in there somewhere. There wasn’t). And as much as I enjoy reading his rants, maybe if Bobby didn’t have to spend so much time answering the petty whining of, um, yeah, -morons-, he’d be working on the comic, yeah? Had to say something, even if its already been said. Keep up the good work guys.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Awesome this was the first comic i checked after getting back from the cruise and wow i love guy
February 4th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
I have been a fan of this comic and last blood for a very long time and I have to say nice work with the story so far as it will be very interesting to see how this incident plays over with Staisia.
Also, a final note to those posting comments for everyone’s sake.
Stop attacking the author, this is a story..a FICTIONAL story that is in no way designed to put ideas in people’s heads as to how they should act in normal life. The majority of the “hate” I have read in the comments is due to people projecting their own assumptions and (horrible?) personal experiences into a given situation; with a case in point being Violence Rules’ comment.
Just stop, take a step back and put your head into the story before you leave a flaming letter so it focuses on the central reason this comment board exists…to improve the story through CONSTRUCTIVE feedback.
February 4th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
OMG I was waiting to see a point to the arch duke post too!
February 4th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Hey Bobby,
How is the next page going?
I ask as it seems both LB & Marry me are rolling on again.
February 4th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
I think this is the first time I am commenting on a webcomic. YAY!
I just want to say that the arguments found here are amusing.
Honestly, arguments are great to view, not because of the discord but because it is really interesting to see the many different opinions/discussions/interpretations people can have on and of just one subject.
Just remember not to take it personal or let it irk you.
Now my opinion on some of the arguments that I have read are as follows:
1.) THIS IS A COMIC and in comics it is not unusual to see females going bonkers on males. The ENTERTAINMENT is the clue, the humor, and the purpose. The argument seems to be whether the scene was moral. Violence is overall immoral yet utopian existence is far from becoming actualized so… let us all enjoy the comic…please.
2.) Referring to En and his comments,
En, if you want to truly give constructive criticism, I doubt starting with “This comic just gets worse and worse every time I come back to it. I do come back every once in a while for the art, but the writing is horrible…” helps your purpose.
Yea….just wanted to say that….keep up the great work everybobby!
February 4th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Let’s see…Bobby, you can be an ass sometimes. Maybe people are being stupid, but you still shouldn’t chew them out for it.
Love the comic, tho….’s awesome!
February 4th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
He’s not dead. Damn it. XD
February 4th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Over all the comic is nice done i enjoy the writing and art. they are in africa i doubt the local government gives a crap what two grown men from another land decide to do to one another they have bigger prolems to worry about then a simple fist fight.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
1. Kara Says:
February 4th, 2008 at 9:30 am
“I can’t believe I just read all of the posts. I think Micha was the most helpful in the debate of this violence issue: “What Christian does is the equivalent of me body-slamming a five year old for putting me in a headlock. â€â€
Thanks for taking note, I’m glad the analogy wasn’t completely lost on everyone. Oh, and it’s Micah by the way (don’t worry, happens all the time)
“Come on, who doesn’t have that one psycho friend who would sacrifice themselves for some idol of theirs because they are really hiding an emotion and a deep void within their own life?â€
You just described my best friend, who no doubt would have proposed to one of the Spice Girls by now if he wasn’t gay. Well, not sure about the deep void part, but he is a fanatic…
February 5th, 2008 at 1:43 am
Wow. Someone gets punched in a comic strip and look at the fallout. If I can’t get the satisfaction in real life, let me at least indulge in some in comic form. Many people want to see a smug snake getting what’s coming to him. I know we can’t see enough of that in real life.
“Now, now Theodore. Violence isn’t the answer.”
“You are correct. Violence is the question. The answer is YES!!”
- Fred Perry’s “Gold Digger” (Antartic Press)
February 5th, 2008 at 2:19 am
Rock on!!!
February 5th, 2008 at 3:50 am
Woo, Parker! And more of a WOOOOOOOO for Guy! I loved the “Not the face!”
February 5th, 2008 at 10:08 am
I’m not sure if this has been asked before, or if its been mentioned and I just missed it, so feel free to tell me so. I know that you are planning on this being a movie eventually, and I was curious if it was going to be an animation or a live action movie. I really love the story and Eisu’s art, and hope to see it on the big screen!
February 5th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Haha. Awesome. Made me laugh. Looking forward to the next one.
February 5th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
The plan is for a live action movie.
February 5th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
you know I gotta say, any one who complains at bobby for not updating often enough has sorely over looked his comments… I’ve never seen an author spend so much energy on not only his art but his “Public”.
Kudos to you man!
February 5th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I…I think I’m in love with Guy…
February 5th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Hey, JKPS613?? …..Ditto.
February 5th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
I will buy anything you make. I am in love with Marry Me, but even more in love with Last Blood! You are Lord of All Comics!
February 6th, 2008 at 12:06 am
lol great stuff
and in stead of falcon punch i was thinking something more like
HA-RU-KEN!!
February 6th, 2008 at 3:12 am
Can’t wait to see the movie! Or Audition!
…….. Okay, I’m a little on the short side for Guy, but nothing movie magic couldn’t do to make me look taller.
February 6th, 2008 at 3:13 am
Oh, and about this violence-debate: It’s really stupid. Both sides are stupid. If one side would have been non-stupid, it would have been Bobby Crosby, but a debate that’s based on a false assumption is always stupid.
Example of what I mean: Sometimes when I’m at the library I wonder “Should I choose this book or that one?” I always eventually realise that I’m acting stupid, because I could just choose both of them. Ergo: I’m basing my dilemma on the false assumption that I can only choose one book. This debate is based on the false assumption that everything the protagonists do in a story must be The Right Thing To Doâ„¢, but it really doesn’t. Unless Jesus Christ is the main character, you don’t have to demand perfect morals in every way. (And I DON’T want a religious debate starting up now, OK? I only chose Jesus because everyone knows he’s generally regarded as a nice person.)
Sorry for speaking in such a bureaucratic style, but English isn’t my native language; I learned it through reading Charles Dickens and Arthur Conan Doyle. That produces quite a strange effect on the speech.
February 6th, 2008 at 4:24 am
I love internet. there are always morons that exists in comments fields of comics, blogs etc. and who exists only to piss others off. Seriously, I love you guys. You are so frickin’ stupid, it’s fun to read what you’ve written and laugh heartily at your stupid little words. You must all live terrible, TERRIBLE lives if you believe that the only good in the world is to terrorize Bob, Eisu and the readers that actually knows how to appreciate a good piece of art with a shipload filled with nonsense, lies, accusations, insults and -above all- a belief that you are right and those who actually have CREATED the storyline and the characters and making the whole thing free for internet readers (THANK YOU!<3) are the “bad guys”.
LOL.
Get a grip of yourselves, stop harassing Bob for being a greater writer than you ever will be, and live the rest of your lives happily ever after. Fucktards.
February 6th, 2008 at 8:50 am
I love this comic – to the point where I don’t mind the long wait between updates
I’ve done a slight edit on this comic, here’s the link: http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8930/merrymespartaaapl1.jpg
Don’t worry nothing rude – but soon I saw this comic it just came to mind. SPARTAAA!
February 6th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
I am so amazed at some of the silly protestations people have posted on this page. What we see here hardly breaks the mold. A girl gets up in a huge, blonde asshole’s face. Christian proves himself to be not just an asshole, but violent toward women (if only in auto-défense). Then he gets punched by her buddy, Guy, who prevents his friend from kicking a man when he’s down. Parker shows herself once again to be crazy and unpredictable; Guy is a mensch; Christian is the same asshole, less one tooth. End of story.
I find the comments about this comic’s promoting domestic violence in order to appeal to women (WTF) completely insane. Where in the world do women flock to the cinema in order to see domestic violence? I can see it now: “Honey, the girls and I are going to see The Burning Bed. Apparently, Farrah Fawcet gets her ass beaten, and then lights her man on fire after dousing him with gasoline.”
“Sounds like a real chick-flick, babe. You ladies enjoy yourself.”
If anything, the comic promotes solid entertainment, as everyone and his mother enjoys watching a jerk get his comeuppance, coupled with a “POW” sound effect for good measure.
February 6th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Amen!
February 6th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Ha–Alex, that is so awesome!
February 7th, 2008 at 9:29 am
Okay, after reading most of what was said, I have to say… I’m not sure why everyone is getting so hateful and critical. Since when do character’s actions have to be morally justified, or be making a statement about the author’s/writer’s personal feelings? It’s not like the things real people do are justified even a fourth of the time and yet we shrug and let it slide all the time.
Personally, I love that Guy has such impulsive moments. He’d be BORING as hell if he didn’t have human reactions to things. I challenge anyone to think of the person who is most important to them… then imagine them getting punched. Would you fucking care if it was JUSTIFIED?
I also seriously doubt Christian’s life was in danger. Parker probably weighs… 120 pounds soaking wet. Maybe less. I’m a girl and that sort of weight couldn’t pin me. You’ll also notice that Christian’s hand was wrapped around the shirt keeping it away from his throat. If he’s capable of yelling for help, then rolling around and smacking Parker, his life was in no eminent danger.
February 13th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
It does not matter if she could or couldn’t hunt or kill him she is physical attacking him. He has every right to stop her. I hope he hit her so hard it knocked some since into her.
He is the boss he has every right to fire people. He has every right to choose to not care about peoples name. He didn’t even verbaly assult them.
He, while walking away was attacked. I don’t want some crazy bitch jumping on my back and then when i knocked her off. (how ever i choose to do it) Someone to come up and punch me. I think parker and guy need some jail time.
Attacking someone is wrong. putting your hands in anger on another human is wrong. Violence begets Violence. You hit me, i hit you harder. You hit me with and object, i hit you with a bigger object… you kill me my brother kills you… In a civiliased socitey we put the punishment into the hands of the LAW.
END OF STORY!
February 14th, 2008 at 3:27 am
Absolutey nothing that mendwell said made any sense whatsoever and he contradicted himself 2,000 times. No clue what he’s saying.
February 16th, 2008 at 5:29 am
great stuff – cu
March 2nd, 2008 at 5:24 pm
OH HO!
That’s what I’m talking about right there!
Team work!
Lol, I love this comic, but i love this page the most!
Ha ha, and Parker is just awesome
April 3rd, 2008 at 7:31 am
This is full of epic win.
April 19th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
I want Guy as a bf!
May 17th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Christian sooo had it coming. And lol on the last panel.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:47 pm
dude, let her kick him
great page, Christian is suck a douche